What does Bush think he will accomplish by bombing Iran?

Scientists have already shown that even nuclear bunker busters would not reach deep enough to take out any nuclear program. All he would be doing is poking a stick at an ant pile and they would go berserk and attack back! And if he was insane enough to use a nuclear bunker buster the cloud would reach countries like Pakistan and India.

These fucking Neo-Cons are fucking NUTS!

On Edit: Here is a video on the Buster Bunker hitting Iran:
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_security/nuclear_weapons/nuclear-bunker-buster-rnep-animation.html

would make the paperwork and government coordination necessary for running a complex nuclear enrichment program impossible.

so starting a Holocaust is worth some imagining of Iran having a nuclear weapon...what ever happened to MAD?

Sociopaths are manipulative and have no consience.

they are also:

Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html

and these are only some of their, 'qualities.'

We are in for a ride folks.....meanwhile impeachment is, "off the table."

... at this point to salvage his "legacy". It is totally beyond his understanding that there is NOTHING he can now do to undo the damage he's done, so he's willing to roll the dice again, using other people's money and other people's lives, he's really got nothing to lose.

Only we do.

When you pull back and see where all the chess players are being put, it all starts to make sense.

a game. With big boy toys.

yes they will fail

If it was a ground war and lasted until the elections I could see that, but by just bombing them once or twice, it will be over quickly and perhaps be a detriment to the Republican candidates especially if we then get hit by terrorist attacks.

Are you suggesting they are hoping for major retaliation so a full fledged war will take place? In the scheme of things, that is the only thing that would make sense and help keep Republicans in power not to mention help the Neo-Cons get what they want in taking over most of the Middle East and its oil.

You actually believe that?

What's a couple of bombs here or there? It will be over really fast.

One bomb and the we are looking at regional chaos.

I wasn't arguing with you. The actual bombing will be over quickly just like when we bombed Lybia or when Clinton bombed Iraq. I was asking what you thought would follow. Terrorist attacks or all out war? I am no expert on this but I am sure if it's about getting another Republican in, they will want a prolonged full-fledged war. Even so I am not sure that will help the Republicans enough to win the next election. I think Americans are fed up with all this war mongering. However, Bush might try to declare Marshall law and stick around himself as someone above suggested.

I am not sure Iran will want full fledged war with us. That would mean the loss of most of there military hardware. They would likely try to retaliate in other ways behind the scenes. So, even though the conflict would continue behind the scenes, the bulk of the action would be over quickly and long before the next election. Unless they wait for October to attack. Like I said, I am no expert, I am just trying to understand what on earth Bush is thinking. I am only guessing as to what would unfold.

it will NOT be over quickly...

http://www.iranbodycount.org/analysis/

Executive Summary

An air attack on Iran by Israeli or US forces would be aimed at setting back Iran’s nuclear programme by at least five years. A ground offensive by the United States to terminate the regime is not feasible given other commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan, and would not be attempted. An air attack would involve the systematic destruction of research, development, support and training centres for nuclear and missile programmes and the killing of as many technically competent people as possible. A US attack, which would be larger than anything Israel could mount, would also involve comprehensive destruction of Iranian air defence capabilities and attacks designed to pre-empt Iranian retaliation. This would require destruction of Iranian Revolutionary Guard facilities close to Iraq and of regular or irregular naval forces that could disrupt Gulf oil transit routes.

Although US or Israeli attacks would severely damage Iranian nuclear and missile programmes, Iran would have many methods of responding in the months and years that followed. These would include disruption of Gulf oil production and exports, in spite of US attempts at pre-emption, systematic support for insurgents in Iraq, and encouragement to associates in Southern Lebanon to stage attacks on Israel. There would be considerable national unity in Iran in the face of military action by the United States or Israel, including a revitalised Revolutionary Guard.

One key response from Iran would be a determination to reconstruct a nuclear programme and develop it rapidly into a nuclear weapons capability, with this accompanied by withdrawal from the Non-Proliferation Treaty. This would require further attacks. A military operation against Iran would not, therefore, be a short-term matter but would set in motion a complex and long-lasting confrontation. It follows that military action should be firmly ruled out and alternative strategies developed.

Certainly before the elections. Iran would then be retaliating behind the scenes in ways posted in that article.

I just don't see how this helps Republicans in the elections and it would create a mess.

The point I am making is that the war would have to seem like a war DURING the elections for it to help Republicans. Obviously there would be far reaching problems continuing after the bombing but that would seem to help Democrats.

I just don't see what Republicans hope to accomplish with this or how it would help them. Just like Iraq it would come back to haunt them and further screw up the world.

Isn't Iran gearing up to sell most of their oil to China?

We better be careful or we could bring China into this.

That it. He care not otherwise. What he decide, who care? He DECIDE. Like MAN.

Maybe Bush wants to bomb Iran because he's still pissed that Chalabi was spying for them.

Maybe Bush just needs to kill people.

Maybe his war profiteer bastard cronies haven't made enough money yet.

Maybe they are managing to hide from him that his popularity is low?

Or he believes he has to do what is "right" in spite of it making him hated?

He is one insane little man.

Their overriding principle is, "if I kill enough people, things will be right". That's just how they think. Nothing is ever going to be their fault-- it's always the fault of some other group that's in conflict with their vision, and the solution is always the same.

So there's that aspect of it, but there's also, I think, a cynical political calculation at work. The GOP benefits from public fear and paranoia. They know that.

Which would explain why in the six and a half years he's had the opportunity to do so, he hasn't.

They want the American Empire in which citizens are serfs and the rich are monarchs.

Why is DU suddenly the hothouse for seers and prognostications about Bush and Iran?

Oh, I know, to distract from the real problem, Iraq!!

The Stratofortress bomber, based at Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota, was transporting a dozen Advanced Cruise Missiles
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090500762.html



only 6 were nukes :crazy: