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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:39 PM
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:39 PM
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1. Casey up now..
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:40 PM
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2. Thank you
K&R
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:41 PM
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3. Hello everyone, just checking in.
:hi:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:41 PM
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4. thanks LSK ! recommending
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:41 PM
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5. Casey's doing a good job holding up Petraeus's statements
but he's a little too low-key.
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:42 PM
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6. Thanks LSK. Reminder: this is live on C-Span.
Casey has lost me -- he's a bit monotone and I drifted off there...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:42 PM
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7. and CNN
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:43 PM
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8. Petraeus sounding abit testy with Casey.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:45 PM
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10. Casey was very godd breaking down the lies!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:50 PM
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22. Several Dems have done this-but will the msm get these?
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:50 PM
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23. Casey was very methodical. I'll have to go back and read his questions
and statements.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:44 PM
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9. why don't they ask petreaus about the mobile weapons labs - credibility
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:45 PM
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11. Webb's up!
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:45 PM
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12. Webb!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:46 PM
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13. thank goodness..WEBB!!!!!!!!
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:47 PM
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17. He also participates in the next session.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:47 PM
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14. K & R'd -- Webb? Go get them!!
:woohoo: :woohoo:
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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:47 PM
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15. Strategic blunder
that putting it diplomatically.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:47 PM
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16. You'd better be careful what you attribute to the surge.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:47 PM
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18. webb will get another chance to interrogate these fools
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:49 PM
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21. not one day more.....how many days more has it been
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:47 PM
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19. thank you LSK
for the continuing threads and to everyone else.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:49 PM
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20. Webb comparing yesterdays hearings to the ones in 02
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 12:49 PM by LSK
We are not getting specifics.

Basically its "trust us".
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:50 PM
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24. The General not listening!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:58 PM
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61. self delete!
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 12:59 PM by ClayZ
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:50 PM
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25. Watching the hearings in 02 was what sent me into politics.
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 12:50 PM by seasonedblue
How long are we going to be in Iraq? ... as long as we need to, and not one day more.

The results of that were a statement from Ike, talking about the Korean War going on:

"When the enemy struck, what did America do, it appealed to it's youth."

The surge was not a change in strategy, in any sense of the word.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:50 PM
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26. Problem is Petraeus ain't no Eisenhower
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:50 PM
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27. Webb is very good.
One of my favorite people. Hard to believe he's a reformed Republican.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:50 PM
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28. the surge is not a change in strategy....yes webb yes
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:51 PM
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29. Talking about the length of deployments.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:52 PM
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32. Very Very good question
That is insane to expect our soldiers to deploy that long.
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:52 PM
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30. Webb is pounding him!
Deployments perilous to the well-being of the volunteers!

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:52 PM
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31. Webb-----INarguable truth-DISruption of Troop rotations!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:53 PM
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36. Petraeus said he would like to have more time off for troops BUT NO can do.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:52 PM
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33. Don't let him ramble on, Webb.
Petraeus is trying to filibuster when it's a Democrat's turn. Seems a common tactic in cases like this.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:53 PM
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34. answer the question !
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:53 PM
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37. He can't
or he will reveal his web of lies!!!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:53 PM
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35. He is not answering the question
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:55 PM
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39. P. cannot respond----OR he would be gone by now.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:54 PM
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BS the strain on the troops is the last thing you worry about.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:54 PM
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38. petreaus cares about politics, not soldiers
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:57 PM
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52. Why do you think Junior gave him those 2 extra stars?
He knows which side his bread is buttered on.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:55 PM
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40. Yeah Webb!! Woot!!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Now they're coming out BEFORE the 15 month mark?? Huh? :grr:
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:55 PM
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41. Webb said the British rotation to Iraq was 4 to 1 ....
6 months on, 2 years off.

Ours currently is 3/4 to 1 = 15 months on, 12 months off.

When Webb served, it was 2 to 1...
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:55 PM
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Biden: It's time to level with the American people.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:57 PM
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51. right on Biden, tell them off those SOB's
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:55 PM
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42. Biden up!
Yay, 2 Dems in a row.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:56 PM
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48. excellent summary by the chairman!
Woot!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:56 PM
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43. no clear political plan....none whatsoever.....yes, biden
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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:56 PM
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44. Thats right Biden
They are saying stay the coarse forever. Total BS Geez where have we heard that before.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:56 PM
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45. Biden-TIME to tell the American people the TRUTH
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:58 PM
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58. says we still have a Generic PLAN--they stand up and we stand down-GREAT ONE
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:56 PM
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46. Biden: "You two don't set the policy here, for this."
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 12:57 PM by Breeze54
;)

Biden: "I don't see any plan here."
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:56 PM
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47. Biden's summation pretty critical of BushCo
...end it now!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:57 PM
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53. Another hearing coming up whew!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:59 PM
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70. oh boy, another Committee, I think my Senator Reed is on this one
he's tired of this continuing invasion.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:57 PM
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49. Just tuning in - thank you
for the threads! Biden. Doesn't see any of it. Obligation is to bring this to an early an honorable end. I don't see any plan.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:57 PM
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50. Biden: there is no real plan
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 12:57 PM by LSK
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:57 PM
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Biden
SHORT but SWEET. Very nice 2 minutes from Joe Biden.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:58 PM
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57. I hope someone bought you a sandwich or something
:rofl:
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:59 PM
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69. I know, that was sweet ROFL
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:58 PM
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60. well guys, that was the truth right there, said by Biden.
now do we fight these SOB's?
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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:57 PM
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54. Great closing by Biden
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:57 PM
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55. mr. biden is concerned with their stamina....lying takes a lot out of a person i guess
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:58 PM
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64. Biden hopes
someone brought them a sandwich!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:57 PM
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56. Where's the next hearing?
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 12:58 PM by seasonedblue
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:58 PM
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62. Armed Services I think
Levins Cmte?
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:00 PM
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73. Ah Levin should be good.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:59 PM
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68. same room
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:01 PM
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77. Thank you
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:58 PM
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59. is next hearing on c-span 3?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:58 PM
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65. most likely
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:59 PM
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67. never mind ..it is on next!! 2;16 THEY JUST SAID!!
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:58 PM
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63. Breaking up now - where's the protesters?
They usually make some noise when the hearing adjourns.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:58 PM
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66. I wish they would ask
What is your biggest disagreement with the Presidents policy in Iraq?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:01 PM
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76. I WISH THEY WOULD ASK ABOUT THE 190,000 ARMS MISSING AND WHAT HE HAS DONE TO INVESTIGATE IT??
his person was in charge of the arms..so why are we to trust him now when the arms were under his oversight

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:00 PM
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71. next hearing coming up after break.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:00 PM
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72. Armed Services Committee Should be interesting too
I hope they were listening. Dems on Armed Services:

DEMOCRATS

Carl Levin (Michigan)
Chairman

Edward M. Kennedy (Massachusetts)
Robert C. Byrd (West Virginia)
Joseph I. Lieberman (Connecticut)
Jack Reed (Rhode Island)
Daniel K. Akaka (Hawaii)
Bill Nelson (Florida)
E. Benjamin Nelson (Nebraska)
Evan Bayh (Indiana)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (New York)
Mark L. Pryor (Arkansas)
Jim Webb (Virginia)
Claire McCaskill (Missouri)

REPUBLICANS
John McCain (Arizona)
Ranking Member

John W. Warner (Virginia)
James M. Inhofe (Oklahoma)
Jeff Sessions (Alabama)
Susan M. Collins (Maine)
Saxby Chambliss (Georgia)
Lindsey O. Graham (South Carolina)
Elizabeth Dole (North Carolina)
John Cornyn (Texas)
John Thune (South Dakota)
Mel Martinez (Florida)
Bob Corker (Tennessee)



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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:00 PM
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74. oy Lieberman
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:01 PM
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78. So true, he shouldn't even be listed on the Dem side
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:02 PM
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83. why is he on the dems side he's a right wing independent
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:01 PM
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79. start a new thread with your information PLease
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:01 PM
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80. Thank You, I was just looking for a list.
Byrd in his seat now.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:01 PM
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75. Hey folks, the hearing is on CSPAN1, for all of us that don't have Cspan3
Just a heads up. It is so nice to be able to watch it on TV instead of a tiny window on the computer.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:02 PM
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81. it is? why isnt the House in session?
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:02 PM
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82. Yes it's a nice break from the little screen.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:02 PM
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84. Great!
Sen. Byrd is alraedy sitting there and waiting.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:03 PM
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85. I have a question; who is the next hearing composed of?
I thought the Senate got the first 1/2 a day, and the House the second, but see some senators getting ready for the next round. Any ideas?
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:04 PM
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86. New Thread up for Armed Services Committee
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:05 PM
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87. ok, cool
I was wondering about that.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:06 PM
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88. questions now on C Span
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:10 PM
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89. Even Hagel doesn't buy it
The Inquirer's Trudy Rubin is more Repuke than some of the Repukes sometimes. She actually said to listen to what Betrayus has to say. Nothing to hear: it's all stay the course without legitimate reasons to do so.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:19 PM
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90. Levin is going straight to the heart of the thing
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