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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:02 PM
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Kerry, Boxer made important points during the hearing; it's not about Anbar, it's about Basra
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John Kerry, the defeated Democratic presidential candidate in 2004, compared Gen Petraeus to General William Westmoreland, who gave an upbeat assessment of the Vietnam war in 1967.

"Not since Westmoreland has a general played such a role in national strategy," Mr Kerry said.

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“Is it acceptable that the British redeploy to an airbase and leave four south-eastern provinces where 30 per cent of the Iraqi population is and 80 per cent of the oil revenues and leave it to local militia to fundamentally fight it out under Iranian influence . . . If that is acceptable, then why is it not acceptable to other parts of the country? And if it’s not acceptable, what are we going to do about it?”

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Boxer reiterated Kerry's point about Basra, and added:

"I ask you to take off your rosy glasses," Boxer told Petraeus. "We are sending our troops where they're not wanted, where there's no end in sight."

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How Does the Anbar Shift Relate to Reconciliation?

By Spencer Ackerman - September 11, 2007, 12:16 PM

Finally, the question on everyone's mind. Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) asked how the turn of Anbar Sunnis against al-Qaeda relates to national reconciliation -- what Amb. Crocker and President Bush have endlessly called "bottom-up" reconciliation. Of course, there aren't any Shiites in Anbar, so how does that reconciliation work?

Both Crocker and Gen. Petraeus answered the same way: reconciliation can be perceived by the Maliki government's willingness to pay for Anbar "volunteers" to join the Iraqi security forces. What that really means is that the Interior Ministry is paying the salaries of 27,000 Anbari Sunnis to police their province. But Crocker said that, at least, the financing shows that the "two entities" -- Anbar province and the Maliki government -- are "establishing working linkages." Petraeus added that in Baghdad -- not really the area at issue in the substance of the question, but still -- the "volunteers" in Sunni neighborhoods against al-Qaeda are going to be allowed by the Maliki government to no longer be "fixed in place" for operations. That means that the ministries of defense and interior will send the Sunnis newly in their ranks to areas outside their own neighborhoods.

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Now, Sunnis entering the police have in some cases declared themselves enemies of the Shiite government. If Petraeus and Crocker are wrong about the relationship between the new Sunni "volunteers" and reconciliation, then Iraq is in for a much fiercer civil war, probably after U.S. forces draw down or withdraw. (And then the opponents of the war will presumably be blamed for that.) If they're right, it really will be a stunning achievement for them.


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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:03 PM
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1. Hell I thought all the Democrats did
couple of repukes too
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:04 PM
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2. I think someone brought that up yesterday too
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:24 PM
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