Biden's in tears on Tweety's show.

Wow. Dude is wearing it on his sleeve. He was telling about having "fallen angels" loaded on his last flight out of Dover, Delaware...and came close to falling apart. "We shouldn't be there. What are we doing there?"

It was pretty heavy.

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It's become personal for him.

but truly are you going to say that only members of the Army have been killed or wounded over in Iraq?

Anyone going to Iraq is in danger of losing their lives or being severly wounded. Was Bob Woodruff in any less danger than a member of the Army? Are any private contractors in any less danger than a member of the Army?

He's going to Iraq, he'll be in danger.

Before that I didn't know what was up. But he didn't pick up his head to face the camera for a while. I thought, uh-oh. And when he looked back into the camera, his eyes had changed. He spoke but was clearly swallowing tears.

Anyone who didn't see it should try to catch the replay later.

I've never heard such a great job by Tweety....no, today he is Chris Matthews. For today. If you're not watching, then you should be....or watch the replay tonight. Matthews tearing Petreaus Report, Crocker, bush new ones. The talk between him and Biden was very emotional, almost made me cry too.

every few weeks or so to increase his ratings among the more liberal and better educated viewers.

Don't worry, give him a day or so and he'll be back to his old self again.

the right and the left think he belongs to the other. I'm one of the few around here to admit liking Chris Matthews. He's (truly) fair and balanced.

But for whatever reason I always tune in to him (usually so I don't forget to watch Keith at 5Pm) and he is doing something wonderfully intelligent - like having Edwards on.

There have only been one or two moments where he has said something while I have watched him that his words or attitude makes me mad.

He was his old self on that one, going on and on and on about the Clinton's "renting out the Lincoln bedroom, using it like a motel six." He used that to segue into his Hillary fund raising story.

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He has his shining moments, I'll give him that. Today was definitely one of them.

every now and then tweet talks like the dem he claims to be.

too bad my impression of him is a cheerleader for the war & the gop

where was his voice when it was needed?

K&R

Every time I think about Bunnypants asking him "how's your boy" my blood boils.

on a sunday show all but giving the rubber stamp to funding war with iran? or am i mixing him up with someone else (if so i apologize)

but even without this instance there are times when i cant figure out biden any more than i can figure chris matthews
hope biden takes his passion and position to stop this madness and good on him for speaking about it

I don't agree with his decision, but it's pretty heartfelt. His view is that he's not funding the war, but buying the armor & weapons that the troops over there need to not get killed. It's always been a personal thing with Biden--like when he came flat out in favor of intervening in Ethiopia at the debate. No one else is willing to go there, but Biden gets worked up about people dying.

He's got the biggest heart on the stage at any given debate. If he was president, he'd do us all proud.

not the current horror in iraq just in case i wasnt clear

yes he does have a heart and he does get emotional but i - for one - would not be proud of a biden presidency
he often speaks about doing the right thing i will give him that

on edit - and also if i am not mistaken (which is certainly possible) it is my understanding that there already is supposed to be funding for armor etc
that its a false argument - and one that the republicans like to broadcast of course - that to defund is to take armor away from the soldiers
it is my understanding that that is completely false

again i am very open to hearing if that is not the case

l minute 15 seconds from the CNN debate with Wolfie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LISgWet3eU

that defunding the war would NOT stop Bush. He would just leave them there and take the money from somewhere else or shortchange the troops. Meanwhile, the republicans would filibuster the move anyway.

the WAR and funding the TROOPS. He said (paraphrasing) As long as there is one American soldier or one American civilian in Iraq, I'll be there for them.

Why can people not rally around the policy that everyone is willing to fight for.

cutting off funds for Iraq because he supports the troops and wants them to have what the money can buy. I say pull the troops, they don't need the MRAPs, but that's me.

I am personally torn on that solution.

involved.Far be it for me to judge Biden.Your description sounds moving.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

It is under NBC news highlights.

while I sympathize with him, it shouldn't take his own child's pending trip to Iraq to motivate him to end the war. Peace, Joe.

He's never needed to have a dog in the hunt to care about people dying. He's just passionate about saving lives. He doesn't always vote the way I'd like, but his heart is always in the right place.

If he cares passionately about these things, why is he unable to summon the courage to enact policies that will improve people's lives? Why is that so difficult for him? I've never understood that.

I feel his pain. :( Been there, done that.

Biden is always watchable. I haven't seen a senator actually cry since the last time I was at the airport.

I watched Chris Matthews' replay.He did good tonight.Maybe he's trying to regAIN HIS SOUL.

I'm starting to realize more and more that he would be a terrific president and is an amazingly bright and caring individual. If Gore doesn't run, I wish he'd be the nominee. But I also won't hold my breath in thinking he will make any real headway. Tis a shame though, cause I think he'd be really good.

One of the best political speeches I've ever seen. It got five standing ovations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU7yhHWuTC4

He doesn't have the $$$ that would keep him competitive with Clinton, Obama and Edwards -- doesn't it just suck that it comes down to that? Just read an article questioning his wisdom of focusing so strongly on Ohio and not New Hampshire. It then stated it was generally thought that he didn't have the funds to cover both equally. How sad -- I think if more people heard and saw him, there would be a lot of conversions.
So I always go to his site and make my meager donations when I can, having faith that other "believers" like me are doing the same.

For me, I'm deciding between Edwards, Biden and Obama. It's a tough decision because in my heart of hearts, I think Biden would be a truly great president. I am concerned that the MSM has narrowed the race already though. Which is too DAMN bad!

In the end, the voters decide.

To me, he is an appealing candidate, but he sticks his foot in his mouth too often.

Committing one fuck of a war crime.

But Biden, along with the vast majority of the rest of the world, always knew that.

I am so disgusted with the posturing enhibited by OUR party.C'mon,guys-you have 70% of the nation's support-do something!

I think this war is killing every decent human being inside. Has to.

and depersonalize it, but today Biden brought it home.

I am not surrending either.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/11/hardball-what-do-you-say-why-did-they-fall/

Amazing. I hope Matthews beats this drum every night.

I've always felt, even when I disagree, that he has great respect for working men and women and life matters to Joe Biden. That counts for a helluva lot to me.

i don't agree with him on many things and am mixed about him personally. but i do feel for him here. he has already lost a wife and child in his life. and almost lost his boys who were in that car.

the thought that it could happen again must be more real to him than to others since he has already experienced it.

It will be the same for the Iraq memorial.

Lives lost for nothing.

The greedy rulers who launched this war for profits must be held accountable this time or it will happen again.

is to contribute to his campaign.

http://www.joebiden.com/home

His MTP interview from Sunday discussing his trip to Iraq if
you didn't see it.

'Those 173rd troopers from Dak To were beautiful. Really beautiful.'

That is a paraphrase of Graves Registration (morgue) people talking to CBS reporter John Laurence after the hill battles near Dak To. They were talking about their dark art on those that might possibly have an open casket ceremony somewhere down the line.

From my recollections of The Cat from Hue, by John Laurence.

BTW: We had a battled-damaged Grumman OV-1 Mohawk come over the field at Phu Bai during Lam Son 719. They had lost all systems, so they punched out over the field .. leaving the Mohawk to splash in the South China Sea. Didn't work that way.

The observer's chute opened (he survived), the pilot's chute did not (he died). The pilot landed on the doorstep of Graves Registration. The Mohawk, lacking the forward weight of the two crew, pitched up and spun in on the eastern perimeter of the Phu Bai airfield.

The basic elements of this event are incorporated in a short story of mine. To keep the crew alive, I have them bailing out over the South China Sea.

Everyone knows those stump speeches are written by speechwriters after having sat down with the candidate many, many times. THEY included the Kinnock quotes and I have no doubt it was the greater story, rather than the fine points that Biden was trying to get across. He don't think he DID know that was the story of Kinnock. Biden was man enough in 1988 to take responsibility for, what pundits knew, was really the work of those under him. This guy has faced adversity in so many ways - loss of wife and daughter in auto crash (almost claiming his two young sons), the whole '88 thing in which HE accepted full responsibility (imagine that!) and then again in '88 was stricken by two brain aneurysms which kept him sidelined from the Senate, fighting for his life, for over a half year. He's a man. A tested man who would make a great President of the United States.

He was so full of shit I could smell it through the TV. The man was promising to continue funding Bush's occupation not two days ago.

And Biden is one that would never stop funding it.

be attacked for "wussiness" by the M$M? :sarcasm:

for voting for the war in Iraq
He like Hillary have been big War Hawks

and their decisions were poor