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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:11 PM Original message |
Why NOT run a Democrat against Pelosi? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Because her district likes her? Thats why! |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Still? How do you know that? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. It wouldn't hurt to run on an anti-war plank against Pelosi through the primary system. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Exactly. Worst case, you just get ignored |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:12 PM Original message |
Duh...! She won her election last year |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
50. Duh, that was like, last year, dude |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
55. The progressives in this district as mad as hell as far as I can tell. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. They used to, anyway... |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. We used to like her. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
62. I wouldn't be so sure about that if I were you Saracat, but then I'm not Saracat. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
84. Every congressperson has a strong incentive to bend to the will of |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. Because there are dozens of Blue Dog Democrats to be more concerned with. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. Pelosi? Far left??? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 02:05 AM Response to Reply #41 |
65. Can you read? n/t |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 03:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
70. Um, she's not acting far left. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 04:18 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Um, can you read? |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 04:21 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. So you think anyone who might disagree with you can't read? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 04:30 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Yes, when |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. She's popular in her district |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. I agree whole heartedly! |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. Nancy is doing what her district sent her in for...to do her best.,...that she is doing... |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
38. Taking impeachment off the table before even getting '07 started was doing her best? |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Sez you..."major league pork"? Is that how you gauge? How revealing |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
58. she said it was off the table. And then got 80 percent of the vote |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. She was not sent to congress to do her best. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. Semantics time...yadda yadda She showing a lot more Leadership than any RePub in the Bush AD |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
63. And that is what? Smile and do what? |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 03:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
71. If she's doing her best then she NEEDS to be challenged. |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
6. can we keep her and help my district unload our asshat dan Lungren district 3? |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 02:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
66. I'm in the 4th and I feel your pain! I donated to |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. No one is going to successfully run against Nancy. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Hey, I wasn't expecting anyone to *win* against her |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Maybe so. I don't think anyone would be challenge enough to do... anything. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. You might be right |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Everyone has to live with themselves, and everyone has different standards. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
9. you're sure? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. LOL! |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Question away. It's not all about winning. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. What is the point of politics? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Politics is the art of divining what you can do vs. what you can't do relative to opponents |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. There's no chance a Rethug will ever win that seat |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. I should have said it's not all about winning *elections* |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. I never said it was all about winning. that was not my point |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
49. You may be thinking of different Democrats than I am |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Do you hear what you're saying? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 11:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Yes, that's exactly what I said |
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qdemn7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Really???? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. OMG, to assert that "ideological purity" has hamstrung the Dems is beyond laughable |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Yeah, I didn't realize asking her to do her job and fulfill her oath was asking for "purity". |
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qdemn7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. I imagine HER version |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 04:00 AM Response to Reply #37 |
72. You mean Republican ideological purity? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 07:23 AM Response to Reply #37 |
79. She seems tp be proving she can't govern if she DOES win. nt |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
13. No reason not too, that's what primary season is all about. n/t |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. Personally, I Like Nancy. So I Hope She Whoops Whoever Would Run Against Her. |
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Roxy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
57. I like her too... there seems to be a lot of naivete here |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
21. Pelosi IS a progressive Democrat |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. So you're saying she's just a hopelessly ineffective leader? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. She's not the queen. She's the speaker for a diverse bunch that includes not |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Sorry, but when it comes to setting the legislative agenda, she is the fucking queen |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Hm, I never thought the speaker should act like a monarch. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Why put words in my mouth? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Speaking of childish, you once again offer no information, just insults |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. the unintended irony in that response |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. You forgot the sarcasm smilie |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. I call bullshit. If she's anti-war, why did she allow the funding bill to come to the floor? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Technically, no |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 02:33 AM Response to Reply #21 |
68. I don't believe so... |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
91. Progressive Democrats Do Not bring amendments to the floor that help kill our Fourth Amendment. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-14-07 06:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
96. Lieberman used to be called " progressive" too. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
32. Because it's an incredibly stupid idea that would... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
34. i have my own problems in the illinois 14th |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 02:32 AM Response to Reply #34 |
67. We are in this together. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
36. I don't have any problem with that. I think it's a non-starter, but if it succeded, fine. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
40. If Pelosi schedules a vote for the 50 billion supplemental supplemental, and |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
45. I'd rather those resources went to my dist. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Why is it a zero-sum game? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
56. Wonderful idea. |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-12-07 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
59. Sure, Lets Waste Lots of Money... |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 03:01 AM Response to Reply #59 |
69. Great idea actually |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 06:48 AM Response to Reply #69 |
77. Yes It Is For Those That Truly Deserve It |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 07:36 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. And who determines which candidates "deserve" a challenge? |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:11 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. That's Called Freedom Of Choice |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
64. That's what primaries are for. I'll take Nancy over here. Even my dogcatcher is a repub. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
75. Money and her incumbency n/t |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
78. It is hard to keep up with her popularity ratings by reading Du at times, |
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ElkHunter (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
82. I think we have better things to do... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. "mass action tends to get the attention of politicians" |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
83. Yes, run someone against her who represents the BASE of the party. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
86. Because if she lost the nomination, she'd win as an independent? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
87. the money spent running against Pelosi |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. How will a larger majority help her if she can't do her job now? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. ok, it won't help |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Well then we're right on track |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
88. Let's just try to make sure that Pelosi doesn't let the new Bush funding bill onto the floor -- |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. How do we do that? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-14-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #89 |
94. You make sure that Pelosi doesn't bring it to the floor --- |
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ToeBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-14-07 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
95. I haven't spent a great deal of time there, but... |
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