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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 03:44 PM
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Mr Gore - by the end of October you need to get in.
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 03:46 PM by Joe for Clark
It is your time.

And you will not just carry liberals. Not anymore.

This is yours if you want it. I am praying you do want it.

Joe
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 03:46 PM
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1. From your keyboard
to President Gore's eyes, Joe!
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 03:58 PM
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2. Add Your 2 Cents
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:03 PM
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3. You bet I did - two pennys and a plea in the mail.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:04 PM
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4. My feeling is, that he will definitely time it just right,
When he jumps in. Is October his absolute latest cutoff date? ..Ahh..won't we be sad when the time comes and no Uncle Albert, but I won't even throw that thought out to the universe!
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:25 PM
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6. I do trust the judgement he makes. He is or was a politican.
I am not.

And that he has been out of that for a while -that is not lost on me. I count on it.

I do think the end of next month is significant. I think he wants to help us. If things do go so bad - come in when it is that bad Mr Gore. And there is no doubt in my my mind - he is the smartest guy in the room right now.

This is nothing more than my cold blooded feeling.

Joe
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:05 PM
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5. I see no signs whatsoever that he wants it n/t
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:30 PM
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7. You know the same was said about RFK once - it is not so new.
I think in our country - people rise to the level as the country needs them to rise.

It is a big reason why we have done so well as a nation.

This is his time -and that is my judgement.

Joe
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:34 PM
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8. Al .... reclaim the White House and put the country back on the right path.




It has been in the hands of a band of thieves and liars for much too long.





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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:59 PM
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9. Links to get him on the ballot
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:15 PM
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12. That is the idea!!
Good for you man!!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:00 PM
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10. Amen Brother!
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:04 PM
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11. You know I am about 50 now - I DO NOT give money to
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 05:12 PM by Joe for Clark
politicans - not ever. Since I registered as a democrat in 1976 - not ever.

I would make an exception for this - even me. And I am cynical.

It is NOT just liberals now - it is everybody who got thru highschool and looks at the world today and shakes their head and thinks - something is so wrong here. What is going on??

He is the smartest boy in the room - and we all know that.

And we better have the smartest boy in the room to get us out of this. We have lived with stupid for so long now.

Joe





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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:07 PM
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13. Still trying to figure out a costume for Halloween...
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 06:09 PM by calipendence
Three years ago I did Michael Moore. Two years ago it was Cheney in an orange prison jump suit. Last year was V for Vendetta...

Not sure about this year, but have been thinking about Al Gore as a super hero ("to the rescue"). If we can get him to announce before the end of October, then that would be PERFECT! Was going to do Scooter in a prison jump suit two years ago, which was about the time he was indicted, but couldn't find a mask. Only Cheney and KKKarl (a paper mask of him). Hopefully Gore won't wait too long so I get a little more time this time too to do him "justice".
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 09:25 PM
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22. You did see this earlier this year, right?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:00 PM
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24. Nope, I hadn't... Thanks!
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 10:00 PM by calipendence
Was hoping to see a recognizable Al Gore in that one, so I still guess I'll have to come up with an original one myself that will fit the eco-hero image that he has now. This clip does give me some ideas though...
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:02 PM
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25. I liked his green spandex...
And wasn't that the eco symbol on his chest?

You could also go as Atlas dressed like Gore. Finding a globe large enough to carry around on your back may be a problem.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:07 PM
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27. Ah yes, now I see him. They didn't have enough time on the "heros" to recognize them!
Just recognized Cheney, Condi, and KKKarl, etc. mostly.

Obama was about the most recognizable of the heroes. OK. I think I could get into that. Thanks!
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:23 PM
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29. Ah, here's a good page to go to for Al as our hero...
Now, if there was someway to get this costume made quickly! :P

http://www.challengeofthesuperduperfriends.com/cast_ag.asp

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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:34 PM
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31. I love that site... glad I could share it.
His powers:

"Powers and Abilities
The Green Solution is able to create constructs made from solid light from his ring. The things he can create are only limited by his imagination and will last as long as his will power can sustain his creations. He can even create complex machineries and the like as long as he is intimately familiar with its inner working and mechanisms."

SEE, that's why I want him as my president. His special powers would not only be wonderful for the environment but great for the economy as well.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:49 PM
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33. I think if I can find a good "Green Lantern" suit, I might be able to use that...
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 10:49 PM by calipendence
... with a mask of Gore and a few changes. Most of them are for kids and don't really show the look that's closer to what Gore looks like though. If I could find a Green Lantern costume like the following, I think I'd be in business...

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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:22 PM
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34. Damn, about the only adult costume I could find is this one...
http://www.spandexwear.com/product.php?productid=16195&cat=265&page=1

Perhaps someone else with a bigger budget can profit from this and be "The Green Solution" at their party after Gore announces in October! $260+ is a bit steep for me!
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:59 PM
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14. K&R Wish I could give it more than one K&R. nt
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:18 PM
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15. You can only ever give it the best you can - and say the things
mean - that is all we can do. And that is a lot.

Joe
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:14 AM
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40. In my eyes I agree it is a lot but obviously, not enough...nt
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 09:15 AM by snappyturtle
edit...poor wording
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:19 PM
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16. why would he want to take on the horrific shit bu$h* will leave behind
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:33 PM
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17. Cause if you really wan tto effect a change -it is the only
position you could ever do that from - in this paradigm.


Joe
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:44 PM
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19. Not true
And he is proving that already.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:44 PM
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18. Yes, Mr. Gore, you have to do this because God knows you aren't doing anything now
:crazy:

Amazing people still think he is this shallow person that would get into that mess just because he 'could have it', which of course is not a given in this system. And I agree with the last poster... Why should he have to clean up the shit we left behind? The next "president" of the military industrial complex will not have a romantic, wonderful, warm and fuzzy presidency. I think Mr. Gore knows that and that the populace on the whole is still not focused enough on the climate crisis to demand real change over other matters, and is doing the right thing by what he is now doing... going AROUND this shitty system to make a difference person by person, state by state, and company by company.

If every state in this country would pass comprehensive climate change legislation (and it is getting closer,) and people in greater numbers were informed enough about this crisis to make changes and improvements to their lives that would clean our environment and demanding companies do the same, we could leave Washington DC in ths dust and shame them into making changes. The power of people is great when harnessed properly, and that is exactly what Mr. Gore and his organizations are now doing and I stand with him on that.

I just today was speaking to a woman who has now pledged to do more to lighten her carbon footprint and visit the Live Earth website (remember, that global concert for our planet two months ago?) and she thanked me for speaking to her about it. People need to believe THEY can make a difference, and that is the power we have if we use it. This isn't abbout Al Gore or anyone else running for president, this is about us seeing our moral obligation and contacting companies, legislatures, and other entities to tell them what we must now do and that we support them if they support a sustainable planet. No one election is going to do that... only we can. Anyone can sign a bill, but it takes a great man to change the moral focus of a nation and the world and inspire people to be their own heroes.

So thank you Mr. Gore for being brave and visionary enough to clear this new path. You are not on it alone.
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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:44 PM
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32. That sounds like an ego trip to me
That he is the ONLY one that can do that. That he HAS to stay that track.

George Washington didn't want the job either. It was requested to him to take the job.

Yes, we do have a climite situation. And it's major. Since Bush has been in office, he has kicked all that sort of stuff to the curb. Who else would put the USA back on track as the leader in this issue?

Bush has screwed up so many things, that Gore would be able to easily put back on track. Our image for one. Our respect, for another. Internationally, he would be accepted differently then anyone else.

Unlike the others, he knows he doesn't need politics to survive. He wouldn't feel like he 'owes' so many people. He doesn't 'want it' that bad, to make those kinds of deals. It would be a case of "if the people want me, they will have to work to elect me." What other canidate can say or do that? That is where all the 'dirty deals' come from. Gore doesn't have to 'play.'

Gore is a different man, then when he was a full time politican. He is a real "joe." I think he would respond differently to things now, then if he was allowed to move into the WH in 2001.

It's that kind of experences, being REAL, honest about thinking for the future (full picture) that we need. Politicans think short term. Doing what ever it takes, so they can get re-elected. I don't think Gore will be as worried about re-election as the others.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:03 AM
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36. Maybe he doesn't want it - I want him - that is different.
He is the smartest guy in the room.

Reelection to what?? He already won once. He has to go three times??

Joe
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:39 AM
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37. You then didn;t understand my response
Because I didn't type here that he is the only one that can do that. I typed that he is the leader who is inspiring US to do what we must do which is imperative now. And the climate crisis isn't just some "situation", REAL PEOPLE are experiencing its effects now and people's lives are threatenend by it. It's quite amusing to see people put words in others' mouths just because they don't agree with them, but then they say, "Save us Al, because you are the only one who can run and win." Isn't that the ego trip? Bottomline is that Mr. Gore is a VERY EFFECTIVE environmental ambassador and statesman, and right now this ENTIRE PLANET needs a person of his stature to get this moving and I support him in it. And yes, he is no longer a fulltime 'politician' and look at all the successes he has had. I would then state that following your heart is really the track that matters the most in life.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:45 PM
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20. Why October?
Isn't it too late?
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:00 PM
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21. You know what a paradigm is?? - Lynn lays this out in the seven
stages of war - it is that what peoples aspire to do, to be the leading force to change.

That is what it means.

October - he does need to go there - enough blood in the water - enough time passed to take over - all my judgement you know - I think it is about right - just me maybe.

Joe

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Semper_FiFi Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 09:31 PM
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23. October 2008 or 2007?
He appears to be dragging his feet. I don't think he has any intention of running.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:33 PM
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30. he needs to get on the illinois ballot
"Illinois - August 7 is the first day to circulate a petition for a Democratic candidate. The filing date is October 29 - November 5. You need 3,000 - 5,000 signatures. "

http://www.algore.org/forum/draft_gore_2008_campaign/gore_groups/gore_ballots_project_group
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:06 PM
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26. He would probably be a candidate that could pull all
factions of voting dems together (consensus candidate).
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:19 PM
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28. I tis not just them anymore - I think it is most of us - as a nation.
I ain't so liberal - I tried to say this once -

I know war can be a necessity - once in a while.

That he can win - I am a business person - I know they think the same as me.

He is the smartest guy in the room - they know that.

Joe
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:23 AM
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35. Interesting that DUers who love Gore
hate Clinton and the DLC, even though Gore was part of that administration.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:46 AM
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38. Neoconservatism changed all that.
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 06:46 AM by mmonk
Bill Clinton was DLC but sane. He wouldn't go conquer Iraq for oil although he allowed all the BS resolutions politicians wanted to make about the level of threat of Hussein and "regime change". Al Gore is a man of reason and a man who understands the constitution that we used to go by and be protected by as citizens. I was a volunteer working for Clinton/Gore. I'm considered real liberal around here by some. I haven't changed though, just the politics and thinking of others have. They don't realize it.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:11 AM
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39. I think the election in 2000 was his "growing" experience...
I think when he tried to do a more populist appeal to the voters in the midstream of that campaign, that's when the DLC showed its colors and worked against him then, and was likely one of the reasons that the year 2000 election was "ended" the way it was, and my guess is that REALLY hardened his heart towards them, when he saw how they worked agsinst him then, and that their real agenda was more corporate serving than being a so-called "centrist" organization.

In some respect I like him MORE for having had that experience, much like I really like David Brock MORE for having had his inside experience and knowing how the other side played dirty pool in the media too so that he can do a better job at fighting them now.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:14 AM
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41. Gore denounced the DLC and became a populist during his 2000 campaign.
It pissed them off that they don't even admit his 200 win-they blame it on his move to populism:

Strange Theory on Why Gore Lost



The so-called Democratic Leadership Council has decided that Al Gore should have acted more like a Republican in order to win the 2000 presidential electoral college vote in addition to his nationwide popular vote victory. This strange finding has drawn some attention, including coverage by the Associated Press and the Environmental News Service -- we have a few excerpts from their reports for you here.
Al Gore, the self-styled environmental candidate in the 2000 Presidential election, lost his bid for the White House because he campaigned on an outdated "populist" platform that was too liberal for most Americans, according to a new report drafted by the Democratic Leadership Council.

The 40-page report, titled "Why Gore Lost, And How Democrats Can Come Back," concludes that the Democratic Party must move towards the political right -- towards the Republicans -- if it wants to regain control of Congress in 2002 and the White House in 2004.

Al From, the DLC's founder and CEO, opened a freewheeling discussion forum by arguing that Democrat Al Gore made a huge tactical mistake by continually emphasizing that he would "fight for the people and not the powerful" as the nation's first president of the 21st Century.

-snip

http://www.progress.org/goredlc2.htm
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:21 AM
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42. another good article on Gore's transformation in 2000:
Published on Sunday, August 20. 2000 in the Boston Globe
Thank You, Al Gore
by Robert Kuttner

A funny thing happened to Al Gore on the way to his surprisingly effective acceptance speech. He became a liberal.

The speech was as liberal as anything FDR or LBJ or Jesse Jackson or one of the Kennedys might have delivered. It was built around a commitment to fight for ordinary people, against large and powerful interests. This, of course, is precisely what made it effective.

The emotional heart of the speech, Gore's honoring of four ordinary American lives, did not just salute the struggles of workaday families, the way Ronald Reagan often did. It identified who was dishonoring their struggles - corporations. He singled out heartless HMOs who pressure a family to sacrifice a child; drug companies that force a pensioner to choose between food and medicine; corporate polluters; corporations that pay workers inadequate wages.

And he identified the solution: strong, reliable public Social Security; better Medicare; welfare reform that rewards work rather than punishing the needy; higher minimum wages; and more investment in public - not voucher - schools, so that working families don't have to send kids to crumbling classrooms.

What is the evil? Corporate power. What is the remedy? Effective government.

-snip
http://www.commondreams.org/views/082000-105.htm
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