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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:50 PM
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He may be your President, but we think he's a criminal.
Sorry, but the sane among us really don't care to be led by a mass murderer. Think that's harsh? Think again. Nearly 4000 American troops, men and women, have died in a war that never had to happen. What's more, well over 100,000 Iraqis have also died. This war wasn't about anything but Bush's desire to be a "war president" and thus guarantee his own re-election. It wasn't about WMDs. Even if he HAD WMDs, he wasn't insane enough to use them on anyone else. Saddam was a totally asshole, but WE knew that back when he was a friend to America in the eighties. You know, when he was fighting Iran on our behalf? Back when we gave him those WMDs?

Nevermind.

You call us "Bush haters." Well, duh. Sane people have issues with killers. Where's Charles Manson these days? He was a complete wanker compared to Bush. Sure, Bush is Bush-League (if you'll pardon the pun) compared to such magnificent monsters as Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot. But he's giving it the old college try.

Those few of you who still love him and think he's some sort of prophet or God's messenger? Get help. Really. Serious psychological help. You're making the rest of us look bad and no one likes you.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:54 PM
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1. Well said
I think everyone should appreciate what you have said, if not oh well.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:06 PM
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35. Here's an idea
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:56 PM
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2. YES!!!
Pretty much says it all!

:kick:
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:57 PM
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3. K&R The only thing I disagree with is your number of Iraqi dead.
It's WAY higher than that!
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:00 AM
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62. Most recent estimates are over a million. nt
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:37 PM
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91. yeah considering all the people who die from no water
or electricity, or medicine, or suicide bombs, etc. They don't count Iraqi on Iraqi killings in the Pentagon's numbers.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:34 PM
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106. I know...
But they really CAN'T argue the 100,000. And it sounds pretty big on its own. It's not like they can say, "well, at least it's not a million."

"Actually, well, it just might be. So piss off!"
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:43 PM
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108. Gotcha. Makes sense to me. nt
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:57 PM
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4. Absolutely.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:01 PM
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5. I don't think busholini is a criminal.
I damn well know that he is!!!!
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:04 PM
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6. Fantastic
Do you mind if I use your words to email some friends of mine?
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:37 PM
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101. Not at all. Feel free. n/t
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:14 PM
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11. Anyone that has traveled abroad knows what you say is very true - slurs and discusting looks for us
Not my God's messenger!!!!!!!!!!:evilgrin:
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:38 PM
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19. Where is the outrage from the GOP
in how their own party has destroyed the Constitution?

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Blue Fire Donating Member (588 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:20 AM
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65. There is some quiet dissent, but this strongarm regime
has bullied nearly all congressional GOPers into meek little sheeple. Dumya speaks, they rubberstamp without thought.
Or maybe they're just that stupid, too.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:43 PM
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21. There's PLENTY of outrage in that comment. You didn't notice?
Redstone
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:44 PM
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22. And that means specifically what?
Redstone
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:40 PM
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20. He's not a republican president..he's president of the republicans
The rest of us are on our own:(
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:04 PM
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23. Hear, hear Mythsage! Right to the point. n/t
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 07:06 PM by vickiss
:applause:

Did you set off a flame war? :spank: Strange thread replies. lol
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:14 PM
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24. Wow, it's the "deleted subthread" thread....
Struck a nerve with the freepers, I guess...?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:00 PM
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30. I nominate you for a duzy award, and would love to see what those freeps had to say.
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Blue Fire Donating Member (588 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:28 AM
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66. The cuts that hurt the worst are the ones that cut a little to close to the bone!
Not to mention freeper disdain for an honest assessment of their beloved raper of our American Constitution.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:14 PM
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25. Good OP!
Your OP certainly seems to have gotten the attention of those to whom you address in your OP if the number of deletes are any indication.
Well done.

Recommended.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:17 PM
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26. Darn, I missed the show....nt
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:23 PM
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86. Dangit! I always miss the Freeper posts before they are deleted! nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:23 PM
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27. Were you trolled here. Shit ... some people just can't face the fucking truth.
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 07:23 PM by lonestarnot
Delete delete delete. You think your number of Iraqi dead is close to accurate? I have heard up to 300,000 now or more.

K & R
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:11 PM
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38. not to mention the millions of refuges
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:29 PM
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49. I stay awake at night because of this bullshit!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:45 PM
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51. it's insanity. A lot of us are up all night not being able to sleep
and feeling pretty helpless in regards of being able of doing anything to stop what is happening to our children's futures.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:52 PM
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52. I'm to the point of zombie now. Haven't slept an entire night in weeks.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:51 PM
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83. For four years
I have lived in a state of perpetual, simmering anger over this colossal crime against humanity committed by my own government. Nothing absorbs more of my waking thoughts. I speak out against it daily. Hopefully it helps.

Fortunately, I eat well, work out every day, and read voraciously, or my anger might well have consumed me by now.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:33 PM
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28. Need to borrow a picture??

Troll ALert!!



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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:58 PM
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29. wow, never seen so many deleted subthreads. How could anyone possibly disagree?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:00 PM
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31. We had a troll spam this thread briefly. He's tombstoned already. nm
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:01 PM
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32. I know. I'm laughing. just one little troll managed all that?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:03 PM
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107. A little cystal meth + one little troll
and poof, one big mess! LOL Busy, busy, busy, he was!!
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 09:45 PM
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33. Awesome OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wish I wouldn't have missed the troll!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 09:58 PM
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34. For starters: Bush IS A CROOK!
His few remaining supporters must admire the fact he's an expert at financial fraud:



The Truth About Bush and Harken Energy Corp

Special Report
NOW

I keep hearing about George W. Bush and his dealings with a company named Harken. What was his relationship with Harken?

In 1986, Harken Energy Corporation purchased Bush's failing oil company for approximately 212,000 shares of Harken stock, then worth about $600,000. From 1986 to 1993, Bush served on Harken's board of directors. In addition to director's fees, Harken paid Bush between $80,000 and $120,000 a year as a consultant from 1986 to 1993.

That's impressive. It sounds like our MBA president was well respected in the corporate world, and Harken management recognized that.

Bush's ties to Harken were less about his abilities than about his connections. With help from his friends and family in the late 1970s, Bush formed the oil company Arbusto Energy Inc., whose name was eventually changed to Bush Exploration Co. Although this oil venture proved unprofitable, Spectrum 7 Corporation acquired it in a merger in which Bush became chief executive officer.

In 1986, when Spectrum 7 was on the brink of insolvency, Harken bought it, paying Bush and his partners roughly $2 million in Harken stock — Bush's portion being the 212,000 Harken shares. Spectrum 7 had reported losses of $400,000 in the six months preceding the sale and was more than $3 million in debt. According to the Center for Public Integrity, Bush's name and connections were the main reasons Harken was willing to offer so much to purchase the otherwise ruined Spectrum 7 and pay impressive director's and consultant's fees to someone who had yet to launch a successful business venture.

Well, maybe Harken hired Bush on something other than his merit. But, that is not what the hoopla is all about, is it?

No. There are several details about Bush's relationship with Harken that are making headlines. One of them concerns insider loans, which Bush — after benefiting from such loans — now says he opposes. Even more serious questions, many of which have yet to be unambiguously answered, surround Bush's 1990 sale of his Harken stock.

Whoa, wait a second. In the first place, what's the big deal if Bush got a loan? I've gotten mortgage loans, student loans, and other types of loans myself.

Insider loans — loans extended to executives, directors or major stockholders by the organization with which they are affiliated — usually offer generous terms that are not accessible to the average person. Insider loans also make it difficult to accurately appraise the value of a company's stock since they are not always clearly disclosed on corporations' financial statements, which can put stockholders and pensioners in jeopardy. For example, Adelphia's books recorded the approximately $3 billion in loans made to the its founder and his family with nothing more than a cryptic footnote. Often, insider loans are forgiven, or if the CEO quits or if the company fails, they are never paid back to the company.

Insider loans are one of the many factors behind the recent spectacular corporate collapses and the subsequent hemorrhaging of the stock market and people's investment and retirement accounts. WorldCom and Adelphia, for example, transferred hundreds of millions of dollars to their executives in loans, while the companies neared financial collapse and their stocks and workers' retirement accounts plummeted.

Do you have details about Bush's insider loans from Harken?

In 1986, Bush borrowed approximately $96,000 from Harken to purchase 80,000 shares of Harken stock. This loan was part of a generous stock option program that was available only to the corporate brass. Harken did not require repayment on the principal for eight years and charged Bush only five percent annual interest, well below the then-prevailing prime rate of 7.5 percent. You probably could never secure such terms for your home mortgage or any other loan. To secure the loan, Bush pledged the 212,000 shares of Harken he already owned, in addition to the 80,000 shares he purchased. In 1988, Bush borrowed another $84,000 from Harken to purchase an additional 25,000 shares of Harken stock on similarly favorable terms.

In 1989, according to the New York Times, Harken released the original 212,000 shares as collateral from the 1986 loan and removed "any personal liability to " on that loan. So if the value of the 80,000 shares dropped to less than the amount of the loan, Bush would not lose a dime, since all he had to do was return the collateral — the 80,000 Harken shares he had purchased. Indeed, Bush later returned the stock he had acquired through the insider loans, whereupon Harken cancelled the indebtedness.

Is this the only reason that the media is probing Bush's corporate past?

No. In light of the current stock market and corporate credibility crises, more troubling is Bush's 1990 sale of Harken stock. As a result of this transaction, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the government agency charged with protecting investors and regulating the securities markets, investigated Bush for insider trading in 1991. Insider trading — i.e., an executive officer's or director's trading in her or his own corporation's stock on the basis of non-public information — is a form of securities fraud that is a federal crime.

What exactly was the problem with Bush's sale of Harken stock?

The controversy centered around the fact that he sold the stock shortly before the company announced major losses; after that announcement, the stock's value dropped by more than half. Here is the chronology according to various reports:
    * June 6, 1990: Bush (who was at the time on Harken's board and a member of its audit committee) received the company's "flash report," which according to the Washington Post, predicted second quarter losses in the neighborhood of $4 million.

    * June 8, 1990: According to the Los Angeles Times, Ralph Smith, a stockbroker, placed a "cold call" to Bush offering to purchase his Harken shares. Bush said he would reply within a couple of weeks.

    * June 11, 1990: Bush attended a meeting at which a representative of Harken's audit firm, Arthur Andersen, warned of a loss that "could be potentially significant." Although no amount was specified in the meeting, the auditors indicated that the losses would surpass the $4 million forecast in the "flash report." (In fact, Harken would ultimately report a loss of $23 million.)

    * June 22, 1990: Shortly after getting the transaction approved by Harken's lawyers, Bush sold 212,140 of his 317,152 Harken shares for $848,560.

    * July 10, 1990: Under SEC requirements, this was the deadline for Bush to publicly report his sale of the stock. He failed to file the report until March of 1991. For reasons Bush has not explained, although he signed the form, he did not date it.

    * August 20, 1990: Harken publicly announced second quarter losses of just over $23 million. The stock, which had opened at $3 per share, closed at $2.37.

    * August 21, 1990: Despite the losses reported the day before, Harken's stock price rebounded to $3 per share. However, the overall trend was downwards, and by the end of 1990 Harken's share price had dropped to $1. (Today, Harken's stock trades for about the price of a candy bar on the American Stock Exchange.)


Wow, that looks fishy. Did the SEC go after him?

CONTINUED...

http://www.thetruthaboutgeorge.com/special/harken.html



The little turd from Crawford also is liar, mass murderer and war criminal. And, unlike Hitler, the drunken coke whore Bush commands H-bombs. That makes his potential in evil unlimited.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:34 PM
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100. Indeed he is, here's another article
This is actually from Mother Jones in 1992, about the entire Bush crime family. It covers the Harken deal in more detail, including the possibility that GWB was warned by his father (president at the time) of instability in the Middle East prior to the first Iraq war.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1992/09/bushboys.html

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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:07 PM
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36. I imagine being a mod is like having sex....
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 10:07 PM by lynyrd_skynyrd
The satisfaction one must feel when one hits that "delete" link...
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:09 PM
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37. Excellent rant!
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:34 PM
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41. Funny thing you brought up Charles Manson
It hasn’t been over a weak when I was thinking about what a great addition he would have made to the BFEE.


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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:37 PM
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42. You can say that again. - n/t
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:45 PM
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43. Can I get a deleted sub-thread?
It looks like you've got some spares.
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Jim FlipFlopper Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:46 PM
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44. No No just kidding
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:46 PM
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45. He IS a crimnal, so try the bastard already!!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:49 PM
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:12 PM
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47. No he's not...
he's a WAR Criminal...
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:28 PM
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48. Our pro-life president
his presidency has had the biggest loss of American life since Nixon. it's so sick...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:55 AM
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55. Please. He lied about that, too.
Paid for a 15 year old girl's abortion while he was doing TANG, (source, Larry Flynt who knew who she was but couldn't get her to go public)and some of us are betting that Jenna still has her appendix.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:36 PM
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:24 AM
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53. Holy crap... This thread was fully Freeped...
Makes me wish I had've had the chance to see what kind of crazy shit this guy was spouting.

What do you want to bet they're talking about me over at FR?

Heh heh.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:02 AM
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56. wow Mythsaje..you really flushed those little suckers out!! lol...eom
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:17 AM
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57. Hey, if someone without a profile gets tombstoned, do we get to see the tombstone?
One of those metaphysical DU questions, like how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Charms pop.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:31 AM
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69. Same here!
All those deleted subthreads... I wanna see the idiocy, for amusement's sake. :)
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:50 PM
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82. I have a suggestion for a feature on DU
How about if we had a check box (normally OFF) that would allow us to select whether to see deleted posts or not?

I'd be mildly curious to see some of those...especially on this thread...

Anyway -- he's DEFINITELY NOT my pResident.

He and his enablers just rob me of over 50% of the money I used pay in income taxes for their stinkin' war machine... Makes me glad I'm poorer now and don't have to support the legions any more with my extorted tax dollars...
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:09 AM
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110. Hi Admins, can we have this, huh, huh, can we?
I bet it'd make a great fundraiser--*I'd* pay for it at least once, just out of curiosity.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:49 AM
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54. Congrats
You hit them with the truth :D
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:26 AM
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58. This is a great post. And I agree with you whole heartedly. Bush's
main reason for going along with the invasion was so that he could insure his re-election as a war president. :yourock:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:32 AM
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59. You'll give career criminals a bad name.
Bush has never been good at anything...if Rove and Cheney and the GOP congress hadn't helped Bush do all these crimes, he couldn't have pulled it all off.

Bush is a 10000000000000000000 time loser!
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:21 AM
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60. Mos Def last Friday night...on Bush and the American people.
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 07:22 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
He said that he's reminded of a situation where one is sitting in a car and another person jumps in and says in an agitated voice,"We've got us a situation, here."

Our collective response, "What's with this WE s**t?
MKJ

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:25 PM
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95. I know.
I was :rofl:

It's so TRUE!
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:15 AM
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61. Nice rant and I agree, however,
there have been more than 1 million Iraqi deaths, not 100,000.
ty
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:07 AM
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63. Actually, he never was our president, never having been dully elected.
Would have been nice if the last two candidates who were would bring this little fact up, out of respect for our votes, our democracy, the illegitimacy of the junta that hijacked our state and is no one's president.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:04 AM
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109. I was going to correct you
and say that he was not "duly" elected, but now that I think of it, I have a *different* correction....

If a pResident was "elected" by fanatics, morons, crooks, and people paying insufficient attention, then he certainly *was* "dully" elected. ;)
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:10 AM
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64. Well said!!!
:applause: :yourock:
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emald Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:28 AM
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67. I don't THINK he's a criminal....
I know it. Bushit himself has admitted it. GWBushit is a war criminal. He should be in prison for crimes against humanity. Instead he has people saluting him. Puke.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:30 AM
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68. War was also for OIL & his war profiteerin buddies.
Great post. :thumbsup:
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:42 AM
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70. There's a special place in hell waiting for shrub.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:43 AM
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71. Code Pink will contain him
They are the only spine in town...
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:10 AM
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72. K&R
I don't know why this is such a hard concept for some people to grasp- we have a criminal in the WH. He needs to be brought up on charges...oh s***, he picked the judges, didn't he?
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:06 PM
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76. criminal? that's putting it lightly!
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 12:08 PM by Raster
In the White House we have a narcissistic sociopath with messianic tendencies who is an untreated substance abuser and, by virtue of the birth canal he slimed out of, a contender for antiChrist of the century.

In Blair House we have a viscious, unbridled psychopath that has delusions that he's Julius Ceaser.

Both are war criminals, mass murderers, liars, cheats and thieves. I have the utmost respect for the Office of the President of the United States. I have NO respect for george w. bush* nor dick cheney*, neither of which were lawfully elected--TWICE. bush* belongs in The Hague and dick cheney belongs in the padded cell next to Hannibal Lector.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:10 AM
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73. K and R
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:11 AM
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74. A mass murderer claiming to be protecting Americans, Bush makes Manson look like a boy scout
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:23 PM
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79. Manson could have learned a few things from Mr. Shrub
if not for his laziness, I suspect he would be in the secret prisons helping out with the torture. Oh, well, I suppose he'll have to settle for interactive pay-per-view.
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:58 AM
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75. I couldn't agree with you more! SHRUCK FUB!
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:46 PM
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81. Oh my God, that's a real book???
I had to go look it up.
Granted, it was published in 2004, but really...

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780974670119&itm=1

From the Publisher:
Thank You, President Bush brings together the nation’s leading conservative and libertarian policy makers and scholars to analyze every aspect of George W. Bush’s presidency and to make the compelling case that he will be seen as one of the nation’s great Presidents.

This landmark anthology features contributions from George Shultz, Phyllis Schlafly, James Dobson, Art Laffer, William Bennett, Edwin Meese III, Gov. Mike Huckabee, Stephen Moore and Grover Norquist, and serves as a strong rebuttal to the legion of Bush-haters who seek nothing but to distort his ongoing record of achievement under trying conditions.

From me:
Are they freaking kidding???
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:36 PM
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88. Staggering, isn't it ! ?
:wow:
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:29 PM
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96. Unofficial working title:
"So, yeah, we're a bunch of assholes. What are you going to do about it?"

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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:10 PM
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77. Aw, all our buddies got tombstoned. - n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:18 PM
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78. Great post!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:30 PM
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80. Hoo Golly!
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 12:31 PM by annabanana
Lookit them deletions! Bumper Crop!

on edit: Some damn Birthday Present, all those tombstones, hey Mythsaje?!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:30 PM
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97. I guess I asked for it...n/t LOL
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:52 PM
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84. Make that over 650,000 dead Iraqis. And don't forget the dead Afghans, the tortured Iraqi prisoners,
the millions of refugees who are fleeing inside and outside of Iraq, the theft of Iraqi oil, Guantanamo Bay, illegal renditions, politicizing the justice department, vote caging, stealing elections, signing statements, Patriot Act, the abolishing of habeas corpus, secretly giving financial support to Al Qu'aida-linked opposition groups in Iran etc. etc.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:08 PM
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85. Great post!
Like so many others here, I can only agree with you, except for the number of Iraqi dead. I have been a Bush-hater from the beginning, and I am proud of it.

I can only guess about all the deleted threads, but one thing that we mus ALL remember is that there ARE people out there who love all the death and destruction that is happening. There are people out there who want us to kill all the brown-skinned people and take their oil, because for whatever reason, they think we deserve it. There are people out there who only care about power and greed, and they are our neighbors and relatives. Most of the people out there who still love Bush do it because they are JUST TOO FUCKING STUPID to know any better, but there are some who understand what's going on and agree with it.

Please don't ever forget that!
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RHM217 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:29 PM
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87. Victory Speech
Bush's speech Thursday night was a VICTORY SPEECH. Not victory in Iraq, victory for him. The 2 days of testimony on the (lack of) resolution in Iraq, with its orchestrated recommendations to allow more time and to make only token troop withdrawals, has paralyzed the Congressional Democrats and given Bush preceisely what he wanted - the ability to pass the mess to the next President.

Note that he did it without Karl Rove. I used to buy the idea that Rove was "Bush's brain." No longer. Rove may have been the political tactician, but the "brains" behind it all - the belligerent, neo-con foreign policy, the calculated callousness toward our own troops and toward the 90% of Americans who are not "high income earners," the financial recklessness, the contempt for enironmental policy, etc etc - it was Bush all along. And now he has manuevered Congress into a position that leaves him free to pursue his own misguided objectives without real hindrance.

Ther is no time left to impeach Bush, even if that were possible (which I doubt) and the Congressional Democrats have neither the courage nor the votes to confront him. We are going to have to ride it out - and focus on electing someone far better to succeed Bush.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:31 PM
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98. And then we arrest him and ship him off to the Hague!
I can live with that.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:45 PM
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89. We must push for war crime charges against him and his junta
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:52 PM
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90. Well said! Exactly what I was thinking last night.

Lots of trolls got tombstoned thanks to that LOL!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:33 PM
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99. ROFL
That post is a DUzy if I ever saw one. It's perfect for this thread.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:38 PM
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92. "IT IS TRIBUNAL TIME IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.'
Recommended
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:21 PM
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93. Two thumbs up! Way up! K&R
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:23 PM
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94. Spot on!!!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:



:kick: & Recommended!!
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:14 PM
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102. damn, we need to get the mods to collect all the subthread deletes
for our enjoyment at the end of the week, like the DUzys!
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:24 PM
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103. Wow ! First time I see a thread that...
Have so many Deleted messages! WTF?
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:01 PM
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104. emphasis on "your"
He's not *the* president. He's not *our* president.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:32 PM
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105. I mean what I said...
:) :) :evilgrin:
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