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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 04:52 PM
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The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis, by Bill Moyers
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 05:00 PM
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1. Same song different day. How many rw wackos do suppose have
any idea these things even happened? I mean, aside from the ones who were doing it then, and were later signed up on bushlers team ?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 05:09 PM
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2. It is clear who the "terrorists" were in this history.
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 05:12 PM by L. Coyote
So, what is the "Enterprise" up to today?
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 06:07 PM
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3. Too many people ignore history and blindly trust and support politicians...
as if they could do no wrong.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 06:22 PM
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4. In today's world, everyone should have to know all this film presents.
Without this information, how can we make informed decisions in our democracy?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:04 AM
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11. we have been in the dark for a long time.
and we are supposed to be a democracy? it is all about corporations, and appointing puppet governments by our own government to be toppled when we do like what they are doing, for example Saddam, they gave him power and then he was jerking around with the oil prices, and they needed a way to eliminate him, shake hands with him then kill him, this government is more like gangsters than anything else.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 10:26 AM
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16. This history repeats with so many puppet dictators. Arbenz, Allende, Somoza, Noriega ...
Even Osama bin Laden is a product of US covert support to Afgan resistance to USSR occupation.

Our dictator list sure is a long list, and the current government in Iran is a product of US intervention. The USG created the Iran of this day by past actions.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 10:22 AM
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13. The secrecy and privilege of the ruling elite has been protected for decades and
those who have sought to expose the corruption and the illegal actions in the name of the citizenry and their right to OPEN GOVERNMENT are the ones held to scorn or muted, even by the powerful in their own party.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html


Why are Democrats ready to repeat all the same wrongs that led to Bush2 in the first place? No accountability for the powerful and the protection of their secrecy and privilege should not be allowed to happen again.

In fact, ALL of BushInc needs a full airing BEFORE this nation can ever find a way to correct the damage. And we need lEADERS who believe more in OPEN GOVERNMENT than in protecting the Bushes and their powerful cronies before that will ever happen.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 03:54 PM
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20. Those who held the vision, courage and attention of the nation were eliminated.
They were willing to sacrifice, no matter what the outcome.

Life has changed. This country has changed.

We no longer live in a society that values and admires personal sacrifice for the betterment of all.

We are selfish, self-important, self-centered takers. Our value is dependent upon what we have not what we give or inspire or save. WE ARE, EACH AND EVERY ONE, A COMMODITY.

blah,blah,blah,...giving is silly, seeking peace is weak, loving is delusional, honesty is stupid, imagination is a threat, equality is evil, poverty/hardship/oppression is self-inflicted,...blah,blah,blah,...

blah *frown* blah
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:25 AM
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9. and not vote either.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:13 AM
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5. This is too important to not give it a kick.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:15 AM
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6. This video is on my Myspace page
permanently.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:20 AM
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7. K&R
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:24 AM
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8. and people like Cheney and Rumsfeld worked to implement it
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 10:22 AM
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14. Peter Dale Scott == Al Qaeda and the U.S. Establishment
http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/index.html

Peter Dale Scott (10,909 words) October 15, 2005
Chapter 8: Al Qaeda and the U.S. Establishment
http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/AAAChap8REVAlQaedaEstablishmentOct15.htm


The then leader of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, Sayed Kuttub, a man Faisal sponsored to undermine Nasser, openly admitted that during this period “America made Islam.”<1>

What is slowly emerging from Al Qaeda activities in Central Asia in the 1990s is the extent to which they involved both American oil companies and the U.S. government. ..............
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:40 AM
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10. does not seem any different from today.
our government in cahoots with other dictatorships, sickening. Our hands are in everything shady.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 10:15 AM
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12. It is eerie to listen to because it could easily be about this administration.
And, it offers some explanation for this administration. Did the "Enterprise" capture the prize again, the Executive Branch?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 10:26 AM
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15. The "Enterprise" never left.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Why haven't more Democrats questioned HOW and WHY BushInc was able to grow stronger than ever during the 90s, after the work of a few good honest Democrats spent years investigating his illegal operations which uncovered and exposed Poppy Bush and his cronies and had them at their WEAKEST point and vulnerable for a complete takedown by Jan 1993?

Then what happened?
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:11 AM
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17. Another kick n/t
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:42 PM
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21. ditto for the evening
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 09:17 AM
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22. refresh
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W T F Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:42 AM
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18. Well, that pretty much explains why we got attacked on 9/11
Our foreign policy is our on worse enemy.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 03:37 PM
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19. Reagan bombing refugee camps is the beginning of our military action in Near East
in any overt, active sense. That then leads to the barracks attack, ...... until today.

I said it then, I'll keep saying it. Ending a conflict is not a unilateral decision!
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