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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 06:47 PM
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Is this sloppy reporting or is the media intentionally conflating the Insurgency with AQI?

Al-Qaida fighters raid Iraq villages

By KIM GAMEL, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 14 minutes ago

BAGHDAD - The U.S. military on Sunday announced the arrest of a suspect in the killing of a sheik who spearheaded the U.S.-backed Sunni revolt against al-Qaida in Iraq, even as the terror network launched a campaign of violence during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

Dozens of suspected Sunni insurgents raided Shiite villages north of Baghdad, killing at least 15 people and setting homes ablaze, police said. A bicycle bomb exploded at a cafe serving tea and food during the Ramadan fast in northern Iraq.

The surge of bloodshed — with 54 people killed or found dead nationwide — occurred a day after al-Qaida announced a new campaign aimed at countering U.S. and Iraqi claims the terror movement is reeling following the U.S.-led offensives around the Iraqi capital.

But the U.S. military insisted it had the group on the run and said a man believed responsible for the assassination of a U.S.-allied Sunni tribal leader in Anbar province had been arrested north of Baghdad.

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The headline states al-Qaeda raids villages, but the text attributes the raid to Sunni insurgents. The fact is that it appears to be Sunni on Shiite violence. Also despite the violence raging in Iraq, the Bushies are trying to claim success.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:43 PM
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1. The IS and HAS been media intentionally conflating the Insurgency with AQI
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 07:44 PM by Vincardog
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 09:34 PM
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2. It's probably close to the truth, but may not be the truth.
Hard to know.

When Ramadi stopped being the proclaimed capital of the new caliphate (with the ISI doing the proclaiming), they set up shop in Baqubah. Baqubah is close to the area these villages appear to be in. We're not talking just a couple of insurgents. This was the closest thing they had to an army--they occupied Ramadi and set up a kind of government, and then moved it to Baqubah.

Some of the "insurgency" broke ranks and turned to the US for help--they were having their asses kicked in Baqubah. We're talking the 1920 Revolution Brigades and other *Baathist* insurgencies. The US sustained a number of casualties clearing Baqubah of the ISI folk, and the numbers of ISI dead and captured fell far short of expectations; the assumption was that many of them fled. As with Ramadi, there were several layers of "clearing"--the US did the initial clearing and heavy lifting, then the locals came through for the final and official clearing, allowing them (as the folks in Anbar are doing) to take credit. (Make no mistake: Whatever the Iraqi's actual role in securing Baqubah, they must be credited entirely or nearly so to their account.) This is Diyala province, the *other* place that * has mentioned where the locals having switched sides for their own purposes. I want to say this was June, but it may have been in July or even into early August that all this took place.

Since Baqubah was (mostly?) cleared, there have been a number of village-invasion attacks in this area. I don't think that all of them have been against Shi'ites; then again, I'm not going to say they haven't been. It's an "ethnically" mixed area--it used to be majority-Shi'ite hundreds of years ago, but Ottoman "tolerance" made them a minority. In any event, the presumption is that it's the remains of the ISI doing it--in some cases they get a village or two for a day and clean out the place, in other cases they simply "humiliate" their enemy by killing some civilians. A very old style of Arab warfare. The villages where the insurgents have managed to stay for a day or two usually tell the same kind of tale; if it's not ISI, it's their twin.

Now, I've been saying "ISI". AQI formally joined with some other minor Islamist insurgencies to form the ISI, "Islamic State in Iraq", IIRC. AQI's had non-Iraqi leadership (whatever their ranks are), which is a hindrance to them. By partnering, everybody came out ahead. The belief was that the ISI really relied on AQI for training--bomb-making, insurgency tactics, etc., so there's a tendency to consider the two names, ISI and AQI, to be near synonyms. In principle, they're not synonyms. In practice there are events that are probably AQI, in other cases events that might be non-AQI or involve the AQI but there's no way of knowing. I figure that since the ISI is lesser know editors and reporters go for synecdoche.

So Jichlan and the other village. AQI? ISI? Probably not the local Baathist groups. Possibly, but not likely, a spontaneously forming local anti-Shi'ite group. Plausibly some local tribe that has a grievance and wants to kill off some of the "other" while the killing's good, but the locals would have been able to say--you don't get revenge to settle the score without people knowing--having people know is the entire point.

Clear? Of course not.
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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 09:38 PM
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3. Why would they do that?
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