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SkyIsGrey Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:15 PM
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One more post about the Kerry incident............
Here you have someone that apparently is rudely asking questions to a sitting senator. Some of his questions were off cuff and forceful but didn't deserve the treatment that he received. I don't care how obnoxious, loud or line cutting that he was, being a citizen of the United States he had perfect right to ask the questions that he presented. The situation that ensued could have been and should have been handled in an extreme professional manner which certainly did not happen. The police officers on the scene could have just asked a gentlemanly calm down, could have taken audio cues from John Kerry, could have not tried touching him which seem to very much provoked him.

We have come a point in this country or anything that we deem as abnormal behavior is treated with extreme disdain. I do not care if the guy was a loud, obnoxious, "out-of-control", full of emotion, we do not get to make that call and neither do the officers on the scene as how someone is perceived to be acting, unless that turns into at an obvious confrontation which it didn't until the officers forcibly confronted him, and even the way he acted does not warrant the treatment He received.

I 'm afraid we have become the automatons, we have become the Vorgons: "Resistance is useless"
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:16 PM
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1. Just what we need.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:19 PM
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2. I'm against tasering an unarmed person who refuses to stop speaking...
...And who resists being removed from a room.

I thought that handcuffs were for that purpose. This is supposed to be a democracy.

If people don't have compassion, fine. But the tasering was bad for our democracy.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:21 PM
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3. That's like claiming a bank robber is just withdrawing money from the bank.
It's really, really dishonest.

If I guy disrupts a public event, cops, or anybody else in charge of the event have a right to ask him to leave. If he refuses then he's committing a crime.
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SkyIsGrey Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:30 PM
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5. But he obviously was not robbing a bank...
"But he was breaking the law. Resistance is useless".

How come I feel that I'm trapped in airlock.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:33 PM
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6. He was obviously disrupting a public event.
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SkyIsGrey Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:01 PM
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7. So how should he have gone about not disrupting the public event?
Should he have been cordial, stood in line and waited his turn, been a good little comfortable citizen? At what point does disruption become criminal? When he asked improper questions, stood up for what he thinks should be pertinent questions, as some posts alluded to He was just showboating try to get himself on camera(which the officers would not have known at the time),or his tone of voice changed?

Which country do you want to live in?

One where dissenting views are taken in wholeheartedly and discussed(Which John Kerry was trying to do until the situation was "defused") in an open a matter no matter how outrageous they may appear to be firsthand?

Or one where the person presenting a dissenting view is determined in our societal order of things have been determined unruly and will be dealt with appropriately?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:21 PM
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4. I think the use of force was extremely excessive given the circumstance.
The guy was not armed, and he did not look like he was physically threatening the senator or other people in attendance.
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