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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:45 AM
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Student Witness: "John kerry did try to interfere with the police"

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/09/witness_defends_kerry_response.html#comments

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An eyewitness to the entire episode, Clarissa Jessup, indicates Kerry did try to deescalate the matter, and did just about tell the police to stand down.

Here's a transcript of what she said in an interview that was shown on CNN. It includes CNN anchor's lead in to and tag on the video of Jessup's interview.

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--SOT--

"John kerry did try to interfere with the police. at one point, police where holding on to meyers. kerry got to a point where he almost lost his composure and said officer guy. you, let him go. i do want to hear his question, i do want to hear to what he has to say. i do want to answer him. that was at the point the officers said will pull you aside to ask your question. but as he was attempting to ask his question. the officers themselves appeared to me to make themselves clear not allowing him to stay and hear the question and yelling into his ear."
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:47 AM
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1. Wow, he ALMOST did the right thing! Sort of weakly, but yeah! All right!
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:49 AM
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16. He ALMOST tried!
Woot! We are seeing some progress here. Awesome bro!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:47 AM
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2. You mean it's NOT all Kerry's fault? That'll piss off some people! nt
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:51 AM
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3. Many people here are defending the cops' over-reaction
But I agree with John Kerry that there was no need for the cops to get involved.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/09/students-rally-.html
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:54 AM
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4. This whole incident smells of astro turf. eom
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:56 AM
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5. So, as a clearer picture of the situation appears...
over time, will the kneejerkers on both sides admit they might have been just a little wrong?

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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:58 AM
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7. Nope (See post #1)
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:56 AM
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6. Glad to hear it. I retain a fairly high opinion of Kerry & a fairly low opinion
Edited on Wed Sep-19-07 11:03 AM by Vidar
of most cops.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:00 AM
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8. This wasn't Kerry's fault
the blame is with the people running the event and university police who overreacted.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:06 AM
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9. Kerry did the right thing for crying out loud.
Short of going down and manually pulling the cops away from the boy, not sure what the naysayers would have wanted him to do.

:eyes:
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:07 AM
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10. That account is not accurate -- Uncut video proves it
This is a horribly shakey video but the audio is among the best. You can see this guy's whole statement/question, the guy who signals to cut his mic and then hear the VARIETY of reactions from students. And you can hear everything Kerry says into his open mic.

Eyewitness accounts are often inaccurate in volatile situations like this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIYTJ75U4NU&mode=related&search=
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:14 AM
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11. Well, she is the one who shot the video. Could it be that she is right and you are wrong.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:21 AM
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13. No this is a different video
Edited on Wed Sep-19-07 11:24 AM by KurtNYC
she is visible in it to the left of him, right after Kerry recognizes him for his question.

I am stating that her account does not match this other unedited video with good audio. She is about 45% accurate -- mostly differing with her account of what Kerry said, the order of events and the amount of interchange between the 2.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:43 AM
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14. She is conceptually accurate
Kerry did intervene - her memory of the words he used is wrong - but they are essentially accurate, Kerry was saying he did not think the guy had to be ejected and that he would answer the question. This also matches what Kerry said in his statement - he would have preferred they not eject him.

Kerry did not, should not and could not have changed the decision to kick him out.

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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:18 AM
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12. oops
Edited on Wed Sep-19-07 11:18 AM by fishnfla
he handed a camera to "a student he did not know, Clarissa Jessup"
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:51 AM
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17. Yes and this video shows Kerry not doing squat to help.
As a matter of fact at almost 3 minutes you hear Kerry quip, "I'd answer his question but he isn't available to swear me in as president." So Kerry made a fucking joke at his expense.

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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 01:50 PM
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18. That is not what is said
Starting at about 2:55 mark

Kerry says something about it should not come to this. He then says "I want to answer his question

Kerry seems to be responding to someone in the audience and says "yeah, its unfortnate he isn;t here to swear me in as President" He does not seem to be referring to the guy.

Though I am not shocked that people are again mischaracterizing what happened.

First it was Kerry said nothing, then the truth came out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIYTJ75U4NU&mode=related&search=


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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 02:19 PM
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21. I think she is referring to events that came before the
videotaping.

Several eyewitness accounts mention that Meyer had barged to the front of one of the two lines and grabbed the mic when it was announced that there would only one more question. He interrupted the person speaking on the other microphone - two of the campus police had followed him up to the front of the line in an attempt to stop him. This is the altercation she is talking about. Kerry said he would answer the guy's question, but first he had to allow the fellow on the other mic to finish and for Kerry to answer.

The videotaping started when Meyer did get his chance - that's also why there are already two cops standing next to him.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:46 AM
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15. So, John Kerry was challenging the police. Why didn't they taser him?
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 02:04 PM
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19. Big question
Why is this guy STILL to be heard LOUDLY on this "new" video? Could it be that this was his buddy taping this to make sure he would be taped for youtube? This guy was unmiked, or so you would think since he was away from the microphone, so why is he so loud on the video? If the guy recording it was just a bystander, he would have gotten everyone's voices more or less, not just this guy.

And I still don't know if he was shocked. He wouldn't have been tased, since a taser is used from a distance. Too many things don't add up, and Kerry is getting the blame for what this asshole scripted.

Did you hear the guy with the camera giggle when the asshole mentioned skull & bones? Yeah, this is some piece of work, he did it to advertise his site and make money.

zalinda
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 02:06 PM
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20. Big deal. How unimpressive can you get? What he needed to do was
pull out an even-bigger taser, and shock the cops.
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