UF Student Tasering: What Voltaire, Niemöller , And Obnoxious Kids Share With Our Founding Fathers

http://www.functionalisminaction.com/2007/09/niemller-test-uf-student-tasering-meets.html

A very poignant response to this item was made by one "Kristina" in the comments section of that blog, which definitely and powerfully needs to be heard elsewhere: "Saying that he was a prankster so he deserved to get tasered is like saying that a woman who has had several sexual partners deserved to get raped." I'm going to let that stand on its own.

However, there is something which is somewhat under-reported as of just yet: what were the charges the police laid upon the young man? Turns out -- according to a longer-length youtube video which showed his being placed in handcuffs (If you haven't seen it already, google it; you'll find it quickly enough), that he was arrested for inciting a riot. And this, specifically, means that he was falsely arrested. Why? Well, take a lawyer's opinion on the matter. What is are the legal qualifications to be considered "inciting a riot"? Inciting a riot applies to a person who organizes, encourages, or participates in a riot. It can apply to one who urges or instigates others to riot. It does not apply to someone who merely advocates ideas or expresses beliefs, if those ideas and beliefs do not involve advocating violence. Nowhere, notice, did the young man request or intimate that others should get up out of their seats, nor was there a reaction greater than laughter or applause from the audience. Hence, no riot nor incitation therein... that is, until the police themselves acted. Should, then, the police be charged with inciting a riot? Sadly, this will never happen.

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Read the rest it is very interesting.

People are saying he deserved to be tasered for taking a swing at a cop.

I thought they had him pinned down and he only had one arm free, which he was using to hold on to the officer who warned him?

Sadly, most have become more and more tolerant of the increasingly militant path we're headed down.

If it weren't for the "obnoxious kids" in the streets in the 60s and the 70s, would Vietnam have ever ended?

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Everyone posting a new taser thread goes on my ignore list, period. move.on DU
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of "ignored" posts in threads where intelligent conversation is going on. The taser-obsessed don't seem to be contributing much to the overal level of discourse here.......

"up your nose with a rubber hose" list.

...with Niemoeller or "the Founding Fathers." One report says he stood outside a bookstore on the night the new Harry Potter book came out and held up a sign that said, "HARRY DIES." What kind of sick fuck would do that to children??

This guy's a mental case.

NGU.

How many slaves did he own?

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Wow. Kinda says something about the strength of your argument, doesn't it?

(And fwiw, smarty, "on a par with" means "even with," so your ridiculous argument doesn't hold anyway...)

NGU.

I don't care how many great philosophical books or documents they wrote. And many of the founding fathers owned slaves, so I put this guy above them, because people like Thomas Jefferson were trash.

...some higher standard for the Founding Fathers.

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Welcome to Missing the Point Theater.

NGU.

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Does everyone love loud, obnoxious assholes who resist arrest now?

I didn't think so.