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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:47 PM
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Vice President Wesley Clark for President Hillary Clinton?
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Vice President Wesley Clark for President Hillary Clinton?


After maintaining a mysteriously low profile since February 2007, Gen. Wesley Clark can be suddenly seen everywhere this week... yukking it up on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, chatting with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, running splashy new ads on DailyKos.

And appearing last night at Hillary Clinton's side at a presidential campaign fundraiser. It was Clark's first appearance at a Hillary Clinton campaign event. If whispered rumors hold true, it won't be his last...

General Clark has a heroic, ultra-patriotic, ultra-inspiring new book to hawk, "A Time to Lead: For Duty, Honor and Country," which published just eleven days before his September 16 announcement that he's endorsing Hillary Clinton in the 2008 presidential race.

Coincidental timing? Of course not! Exquisite timing for Hillary Clinton. You bet!

General Clark, a longtime Arkansas friend and trusted ally of the Clintons, lavished praise on Sen. Clinton:

"The world has reached a critical point, and we need a leader in the White House with the courage, intelligence and humility to navigate through many troubling challenges to our security at home and abroad. I believe Senator Clinton is that leader, and I whole-heartedly endorse her for President of the United States.

"Senator Clinton and I share a worldview in which diplomacy is the best first-strike tool in our arsenal; in today's complicated global system, the United States should be making more friends than enemies."

Burnishing Hillary's Cred
Nothing... absolutely nothing... would burnish Sen. Clinton's credentials more in the eyes of moderate and conservative voters than wholehearted support from a 4-star U.S. Army general, former Supreme Allied Commander (during Bill Clinton's presidency), and highly decorated war veteran. (See more info at Profile of Retired US Army General Wesley Clark.)

And nothing would boost the sagging political fortunes of this ambitious military man (who briefly ran for the White House in 2004) more than close political association with the Democratic frontrunner for the 2008 nomination.

The liberal blogosphere is brimming with rumors that Wesley Clark is potential Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's top choice for a vice-presidential running mate.

I have no idea if this rumor holds the seeds of reality... but if true, a Clinton-Clark pairing could be an unbeatable match made in Democratic political heaven.

And there's a certain logic to Wesley Clark as Democratic vice presidential candidate, since the other top candidate for the VP nomination, Gov. Mark Warner, recently took himself out of contention by declaring his candidacy for U.S. Senator from Virginia...

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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:48 PM
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1. Actually he would be a good pick for any of them.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:50 PM
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2. Yep, he would be a great pick for any of them
Of course, I'm a bit biased, being a Clarkie from 04. But I know the General will turn a lot of heads in 08.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:50 PM
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3. A logical pick if Hillary gets the nomination.
Smart and an effective general, with considerable political experience. Plus, he wouldn't tower over her in photo ops (silly? Maybe, but a consideration). Anyway, he would be a good and logical choice.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:50 PM
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You're placing the cart before the horse - and it's unbecoming to the people you choose to woo. nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:52 PM
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6. The cart before the horse!
I get it! :rofl:

But isn't this an Edwards supporter's Op? :shrug:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:59 PM
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14. A little bit of confidence is very appealing but this *overt arrogance* only turns people off.
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 06:00 PM by ShortnFiery
It's disgusting the way you are forcing HRC down our throats. Tweety has already anointed her along with the rest of the corporate WHORISH media.

I'm disgusted. America loses if HRC snags The Presidency because it will be with "a large" Republican majority in The Congress. :thumbsdown:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:40 PM
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18. I'm not forcing Hillary down anyone's throat.......cause I don't even support her.....
and considering that the OP is for Edwards, I believe this is just DU speculatin' thread done for who knows what motive...but I do know that DUers love speculatin', which can be fun, you know.

Go check out the "PRESIDENT EDWARDS" thread on GDP that has nothing more than a good pic of Edwards as the op....and then tell me which is worse; this thread or that one?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3536760&mesg_id=3536760
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:56 PM
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12. Actually no. The "dream ticket" threads are an old, if tiresome, DU tradition.
My favorite being the poster who suggested a Kucinich-Gravel ticket. How better to balance the sanest and most plainspoken of candidates than with a demented misanthrope?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:50 PM
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4. Nope, don't want that combination. I'll take a Gore/Clark ticket in heartbeat though.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:52 PM
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5. It's stuff like this that makes the RW nod their heads as they all screamed loudly
in 2003 that Clark was Clinton's stalking horse in the 2004 campaign to dilute loyalty to whoever would become the eventual nominee.

I can still hear Pat Buchanan's cackling about it.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:53 PM
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7. But who cares what happened in 2004....since Hillary didn't endorse Clark......
and Kerry won the nomination. :shrug:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:10 PM
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17. Hill didn't do much of anything in 2003-4, did she?
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 06:11 PM by blm
Did she HAVE to? I'm sure you must understand what the charge 'stalking horse' means in political terms - and endorsing the horse is not part of it.

http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:42 PM
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19. So Hillary also fixed it for Kerry to lose in 2004?
since she was "stalking".....or whatever? cause if she's that powerful, maybe her being President would be a good thing! :)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:49 PM
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20. Would Bill have won 1992 with a Dem network pulling that crap on him?
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 06:52 PM by blm
Did YOU and I and this country deserve 4 more years of Bush, just because someone else could undermine another Dem and get away with it?

Were YOU pleased with the job the DNC did securing the elections of 2002 and 2004, FC, just because they COULD ignore the problems for four years and get away with it because they controlled the inner circle of establishment Dems?

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:05 PM
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21. What you just responded was not the point......
the point was that I believe that Kerry won the nomination on his own merit, not because of Hillary Clinton.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:09 PM
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22. Kerry did win the nom on his own merit. Then what?
He won it despite the backstabbing as mentioned by Douglas Brinkley in April2004.

And Kerry was stuck that summer and fall with the Dem party infrastructure that had been laying in collapse for the four year stewardship of Terry McAuliffe - one of the backstabbers.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:19 PM
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23. This was a big ass plan, then!
Hillary appears to be a genius then.

If what you say is true, she gets my vote based on pure strategic genius of getting what she wanted at the end with so many variables at play.

I'm telling you.....folks want a manipulative fighter if that will achieve a victory at the end. Bottomline is that no matter what folks online say, Hillary is not the devil; and she is certainly not anything close to Bush.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:30 PM
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24. The manipulating and fight was never against BushInc the last 6 years, was it?
Or did that escape your notice?

In fact, her top advisors were head of the DNC from 2001-2005 and working for Joe Lieberman's campaign.

You tell me how well Clinton and that team worked at opposing Bush the last 6yrs.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:53 PM
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8. I think he would be better suited as SECSTATE for any Dem President
We will need a professional diplomat with extensive experience and a brain to clean up condi's fucking disaster.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:55 PM
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10. Clinton would pick Holbrook, not Clark for SOS......
well, that's what I suspect anyways.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:00 PM
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16. That's a good guess. And much as I love Clark, Holbrook is probably a better pol
Clark's style is a little too direct. He plays politics like it's written about in the civics textbooks. I suspect that a lot of backroom dealing goes on in the selection of the most important cabinet slot. If that's the case, Holbrooke is the stronger possibility.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:56 PM
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11. Good point.
The General could definitely do a lot more in that position. I'm just a bit afraid of the Repigs pulling a "the Dems are anti military" message in the general election. Wes would stop that talk immediately by being on the ticket.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:53 PM
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9. I suspect he won't get that slot.
He'd be a great Secretary of State--it'd be good to have a media savvy chief diplomat in the age of YouTube.

VP is a difficult choice--and one to be made late in the process once you know what the Fall election is going to look like. I think Clinton, will need to go with a Gore-type pick, someone so obvious it's practically counterintuitive. Webb, Biden, Bayh, or even Obama, who'll have seven months to lick any wounds if he's undone by January--as the calendar may decide.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:57 PM
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13. Ya think?
:sarcasm::eyes:


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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:00 PM
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15. Being a tad silly here but I'd like to see GENERAL SHINSEKI as anyone's running mate
General Clark as SECSTATE, General McCaffrey as SECDEF.
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