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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:04 PM
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Democratic Debate On PBS NOW
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:04 PM
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1. Why do they have to debate at the same time Keith returns?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:06 PM
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6. Welcome back Keith, but he re-airs at midnight EST :)
Go Dems and thank you PBS :toast:
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:15 PM
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17. I am boycotting anyway, no Kooch. n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:16 PM
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21. no Dennis where is he???
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:09 PM
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66. He was invited by registered mail, but his campaign did not respond
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:28 PM
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40. I don't really like these debates.
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 07:33 PM by TheUniverse
Everyone gets about a minute to answer questions, so they talk in soundbites, never truly tackle the issues, and bore us to death. I wish our debates were more like that live debate on the West wing a few years ago.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:15 PM
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19. yea, Keith is back with a special comment.
I am going to keep on switching back and forth. I want to hear Dennis too.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:05 PM
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2. 1st Question - Health Care
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:05 PM
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3. Obama invited but he declined.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:06 PM
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4. Richardson- take $ from Iraq and use it at home.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:06 PM
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5. All Dems voted against Medicare Presciption Program
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 07:07 PM by cryingshame
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:07 PM
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7. Hillary looks tired.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:08 PM
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8. Biden- state efforts build consensus. Calls out insurance industry spending billions on ads
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 07:09 PM by cryingshame
gets applause
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:10 PM
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11. Edwards- takes Biden's tack. Stand up to industry not compromise
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:11 PM
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13. Judy Woodruff goes back to Hillary but ignores Dodd
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:13 PM
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16. What was that dark spot on Biden's head? /nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:20 PM
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28. the fly that landed on Dodd in the last debate
:D
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:27 PM
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36. LOL!!! n/t
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:08 PM
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9. Is this being streamed anywhere?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:10 PM
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10. here ya go - compliments of the Biden Blog
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:11 PM
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12. I think Edwards came on strong.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:12 PM
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14. I hope he wins this debate.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:16 PM
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20. Thank you but we already know who will 'win'.
Hillary could be a no show and the pundits would say she won.

btw...I'm walking in a parade on Saturday in Des Moines with other Edwards supporters. I heard today that Obama will be walking in the same parade. Is there anything you'd like me to say?!!!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:18 PM
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24. Yes: Tell them to JOIN FORCES!
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:23 PM
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33. I'll try! I'll also try to get a photo and post it here just for you! n/t
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:27 PM
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38. You rock!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:12 PM
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15. Follow up question to Hillary. Ignoring other candidates
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:15 PM
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18. finally to Dodd, it's a matter of access and cost. Bringing parties together like he did with
Family Medical Leave Act
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:18 PM
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23. Discussing help for caregiverse to elderly parents. Biden's 90 yr old Mom lives with him
Richardson has a plan to help payy for this as well.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:17 PM
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22. I don't like the fact Judy Woodruff is STANDING there close to them in their little semi-circle -
I keep waiting for her to tell Richardson "You are the weakest link."
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:19 PM
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25. Edwards- paying for change repealing Bush tax cuts.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:19 PM
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26. Respite care for caregivers
Some good ideas to help caregivers---respite care help mentioned by Clinton, Dodd, and Biden.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:19 PM
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27. Who's doing better, Edwards or Hill?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:20 PM
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29. Edwards. Hillary does indeed look tired (not a knock, just observing)
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:22 PM
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31. As long as he is looking better, it's all good.
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 07:22 PM by Katzenkavalier
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:26 PM
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35. I don't think Hillary looks bad at all. n/t
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:28 PM
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39. I like her outfit though -
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 07:30 PM by smalll
All one color often doesn't work, but this beigy/yellow ensemble looks good on her. The sort of pocket-square ruffle is a nice touch. I'd say the color helps her to look, to my eyes, more relaxed than tired.

I wish she'd be bolder with her hair -- she does "embiggen" and pompadour it, which is a wise choice to seem substantial, presidential, powerful. But she shrinks from the embiggenned, pompadour legacy by "modernizing" it -- not TOO structured, not TOO neat, not TOO structural.

I wish she'd go all out and do a Margaret Thatcher do. She had that for maybe a few weeks as First Lady, it looked great on her. It would give her some real age-appropriate glamor, make her even more regal, and also highlight her professionalism and exactitude.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:20 PM
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30. Edwards (to Judy) - "let me explain what you just said so the audience understands." -
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 07:34 PM by smalll
With a smarmy little wink at the end. Add condescension to his compendium of faults.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:24 PM
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34. So unfair of you! n/t
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:22 PM
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32. they talk about waste in health care TALK ABOUT ELIMINATING INSURANCE CO'S!!!
damn it.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:27 PM
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37. Not on the air here.... ooops- just delayed!
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 07:56 PM by stlsaxman
;-)
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:30 PM
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41. Single payer question to Biden
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:34 PM
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46. Biden: Can't get the support of Republicans with single payer
All said No on single payer (no surprise)
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:31 PM
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42. Biden is getting testy! n/t
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:36 PM
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48. I wouldn't say "testy" - more like "hopped up on goof-balls" -
that was a brilliant pyrotechnical riff he went off on though.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:32 PM
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43. Has Obama been attacked so far?
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:32 PM
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44. No
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:34 PM
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47. Good.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:33 PM
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45. Ugh! They ALL reject single payer health care.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:40 PM
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49. Social security questions
Clinton: Stop taking money out of Soc. Security to fund war
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:43 PM
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50. Asked about raising retirement age
Dodd and Richardson: NO
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:44 PM
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51. OMG - Richardson just batted away a fly and commented on it -
they DO have another fly there! (It was hanging on Biden's head when he gave his first answer.)
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:49 PM
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52. booby bammers
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:53 PM
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53. Edwards
Strengthening unions in workplace would protect pensions

Sounds like he's getting boos as well as cheers
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:56 PM
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54. I wondered about that
but I don't think it would be boos. It wouldn't make sense from this crowd.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:56 PM
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55. Why would Iowans boo him?
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:59 PM
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57. He was talking on behalf of unions
Could be there were business owners out in the audience who oppose unions?:shrug:
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:06 PM
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63. I guess I'm assuming this is a Democratic audience.
We don't usually boo union issues. Especially a comment on pensions that unions provide workers.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:05 PM
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62. No, why would this audience be anti-union? n/t
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:57 PM
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56. Foreclosures
Dodd blames bankers and brokers, federal reserve banks---did not show oversight.
Edwards---national preditory lender law---cap of 36%; need home rescue fund
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:59 PM
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58. Lively debate
I think it flows better than some previous ones.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:59 PM
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59. What a sweet coyote picture n/t
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:00 PM
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60. Richardson blames unregulation of mortgage lenders n/t
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:04 PM
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61. Global Warming and Carbon Tax
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:06 PM
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64. Global warming questions---carbon tax?
Clinton:No, but take away subsidies from oil companies and put it toward alternative fuel
Dodd is for it.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:08 PM
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65. Alternative minimum tax
Clinton and Edwards want to modify it.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:09 PM
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67. Richardson---tax incentives
for businesses that unionize and pay above prevailing wage.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:10 PM
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68. All y'all missed an amazing Special Comment from Keith a few minutes ago...
...just saying! :)
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:12 PM
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69. Paid family leave for 6 weeks---Dodd proposal; Biden is digressing
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:14 PM
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70. Richardson and Clinton: Equal pay for women
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:17 PM
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71. Dodd: We need to stop funding the war
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:22 PM
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72. Residual forces in Iraq?
How many troops one year after you are in office?

Biden: depends.
Edwards: 50,000 troops out immediately, then more over time.
Richardson: 0 Can't have political settlement without getting out
Clinton: Can't answer question because we don't know what we are going to inherit. She would want advisement and then come up with a plan. Will get them out as responsibly as possible.
Dodd: We shouldn't have to wait that long to end the war.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:26 PM
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73. Closing statements
Edwards: Trust has been destroyed, must restore it.
Dodd: We need leadership to get results.
Biden: Iraq casualties. How many more "fallen angels" before we end war? Next President needs to end it without chaos.
Clinton: She will end war. Need to rebuild middle class and claim future for children. We'll have difficult challenges. (She gets big cheers)
Richardson: FDR's death anecdote.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:29 PM
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74. Hillary is like Sugar Ray Leonard and Muhammad Ali
She knows how to close strong in the last :30 seconds of a round.
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