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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:11 PM
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Ahmadinejad's Ground Zero Ploy
Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 03:14 PM by RestoreGore
To me it would have been better to just call his bluff and say yes, go ahead, lay your wreath and show him the kind of courtesy we would more than likely not get in his country. As I stated in another thread I am not exactly a fan of his either, but once again this is all being made "political" so of course once again a chance to show what we are really made of us has been squandered just like we squandered the goodwill after 9.11. Or is it that we are really hate filled people who cannot look beyond that hate to ever even try to mend the wounds that will still be festering when our children are grown?


http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1663768,00.html?xid=feed-yahoo-full-world


The shrill reaction to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's request to visit Ground Zero is playing right into the Iranian President's hands. He faces growing unpopularity at home, thanks to a dire economy and mounting religious and cultural repression. But his power base is made up mainly of Iranians who participated in the 1979 revolution, among whom the loathing of the U.S. runs very deep. Nothing energizes them more than the sight of their leader being excoriated by the hated Americans.

There's little reason to believe the Iranian President really wanted to visit the site of the World Trade Center's twin towers. He didn't ask to see it on his previous trip to New York. When TIME interviewed him last year, we asked if he had visited the site. His response: "It was not necessary. It was widely covered in the media." And he once wrote a letter to President Bush, suggesting that the attacks on the towers were the work of unspecified "intelligence and security services."

So why would he ask to visit now? It is a transparently political stunt, aimed at the audience back home.

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American politicians — especially presidential hopefuls looking to score easy points — lit into the Iranian President with a candor they rarely show on the campaign trail. "It is unacceptable for , who refuses to renounce and end his own country's support of terrorism, to visit the site of the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil in our nation's history," said Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton. Republican candidate Rudy Giuliani — who was New York City mayor at the time of the attacks — thundered: "This is a man who has made threats against America and Israel, is harboring bin Laden's son and other al-Qaeda leaders, is shipping arms to Iraqi insurgents and is pursuing the development of nuclear weapons." His fellow Republican candidate Mitt Romney described Ahmadinejad's request as "shockingly audacious."

The Iranian President can only benefit from this sort of demonization. It allows him to tell his fellow Iranians: "Look, I tried to be a nice guy, I wanted to lay a wreath on Ground Zero, but these Americans don't appreciate our compassion." And to the conservative mullahs and hard-liners of Iran, Ahmadinejad's stock rises when Americans put him down.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:13 PM
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1. His laying a wreath is equal to bush laying a wreath there
Done by two monsters in an insincere gesture to get people to like them.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:14 PM
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3. If Bush can visit New Orleans, then Imadinnerjacket can visit Ground Zero. n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:15 PM
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4. Ahmadinejad had nothing to do with 9-11.
Unlike Bush and New Orleans.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:17 PM
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6. One could easily claim
that bush had a helluva lot to do with 9-11, like that he let it happen so he could be a war president and land on a carrier.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:19 PM
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8. This is a lot like not letting Kruschev visit Disneyland.
It's just plain spite.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:22 PM
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Yes...
He didn't want to do that to get anyone here to like him, but I do I believe he wanted to do it to prove that we are not what we say we are. And in a world where changing hearts and minds and proving the monsters wrong is crucial, this to me was a good start. I think it sure would have surprised him because he got the exact answer he was looking for to now spin it in his favor.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:13 PM
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2. Maybe he could have borrowed the wreath that Reagan put on the grave...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:15 PM
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5. Wake-up Citizens! Newt said this morning that we've been at war with Iran since 1979.
:wow:

In fact, we've always been at war with Iran. :evilgrin:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:22 PM
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11. was this before or after WE installed Saddam Hussein in Iraq?
We've certainly had a hand in trying to control that area for some time. :shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:17 PM
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7. We used to call this "diplomacy". n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:20 PM
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9. Reagan went to Bitburg.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:21 PM
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10. OTOH if he feels so strongly about paying his respects, let him hop on
Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 03:22 PM by no_hypocrisy
the PATH train at 4 a.m. without the media, get on the escalator, go up the steps, look at the hole, and return to the Waldorf.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:12 PM
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12. I agree Ahmadinejad is no good. Just a carbon copy of Bush..tin pot authoritatian
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:29 PM
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13. If we close everyone out and only listen to our government...
how do we know what is truth or not? I am not his fan but all I know of him is what I read online and what the media and our government tell me. His words in interviews are completely different fro the ones that want to blow him up, go figure.I say let the man speak and we should be able to decide what we think. I don't any of you or any other politicians deciding who I should be able to hear. I want as much information as possible on any given subject so I can make an informed judgment instead of the judgment of my government.
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