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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:47 PM
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Odds are for Gore 6:1
RUN AL RUN!
http://www.newsmeat.com/
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:50 PM
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1. They have McCain at 5:1, so I wouldn't take them too seriously.
They also have Ron Paul at 8:1. He has no chance in the primary, much less the general.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:52 PM
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2. Wow!
Run Al Run!!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:58 PM
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3. While I'd love to see Al Gore run, some perspective in the odds
Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 01:00 PM by mcscajun
which are of a general election victory by the candidate:

Hillary Clinton: 2-1
Rudy Guiliani: 3-1
Fred Thompson: 4-1
John McCain: 5-1
John Edwards: 6-1
Al Gore: 6-1
Ron Paul: 8-1
Barack Obama: 7-2

The odds of candidates not listed were way too long to even contemplate: some candidates (both popular here at DU and very much UNPopular) were at 100-1 or 200-1.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:06 PM
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4. The Ron Paul 8:1 doesn't make much sense. Maybe the bookies are just hedging.
n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:09 PM
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5. Here in Texas
The only stickers I have seen have been for Ron Paul.
The only billboard I have seen is for Ron Paul.
People ARE ready for something different.
Don't let the media tell you anything different.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:12 PM
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7. Ron Paul is a nutcase and an ultraconservative.
Don't let Ron Paul tell you anything different.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:13 PM
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9. I know what he is
my point is that people want change.
He appears to many on the conservative side to be that change.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:17 PM
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10. That must be why he's in the low single digits in most polls.
n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:20 PM
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11. The polls don't represent what people want
and he obviously isn't a media darling.
However, people with bumper stickers and billboards in their yard do say something about what the PEOPLE are thinking.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:26 PM
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13. Ah, yes, anecdotal evidence in one small part of the country trumps all.
Not to mention that this overwhelming anecdotal evidence is in the same state the guy represents. Yeah, that's indicative of massive national interest.
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Semper_FiFi Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 08:03 PM
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27. Very well put, TwilightZone
I always find it interesting when people tell me "Everyone in my family wants (insert name here) to win the nomination" as if that bit of information should be taken to the bank. Anecdotal evidence is of interest, of course, but it does not prove much.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 11:09 PM
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34. He is huge here too
I am amazed by the ground swell of support for Ron Paul here. He has billboards. I also see more Ron Paul bumper stickers and yard signs that I see for any other candidate. No I don't think he will get the nomination. But you can't dismiss his supporters. There are a ton of them and they are really pushing him.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 11:10 PM
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35. He is huge here too
I am amazed by the ground swell of support for Ron Paul here. He has billboards. I also see more Ron Paul bumper stickers and yard signs that I see for any other candidate. No I don't think he will get the nomination. But you can't dismiss his supporters. There are a ton of them and they are really pushing him.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:10 PM
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6. Interesting site Hillary 2-1 That's what I believe too
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:13 PM
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8. I like InTrade, for real gambling on events, political and otherwise...
... http://www.intrade.com/
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:21 PM
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12. Someone's gotta stop Hillary.
I'd love for it to be Al!

TC
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 07:10 PM
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26. She is the one. Tough noogies
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:27 PM
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14. Oh yes, a gambling site is all he needs to change his mind...
A site that makes money off of using people. :silly:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:41 PM
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18. Actually it isn't a gambling site
It is a political contribution site.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:53 PM
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21. The odds are from a gambling site.
Note the asterisk.

* Odds of general election victory published by sportsbook.com on September 17, 2007
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:45 PM
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23. Based on odds from a gambling site, no?
Where did the odds come from then? And just where then would people contribute to Mr. Gore per this page just based on a number, and how can they when he is not a candidate? These are odds run by bookies who make money from using peoples' name recognition to benefit themselves and those who want to see a Gore/Clinton knock down drag out and I think it is bs. But just another example of how out of touch some people are with issues as opposed to Bs.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:13 PM
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24. They were on the front page of newsmeat
which is a political contribution site.
Where they got them I have no idea.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:35 PM
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25. You have no idea where they got the numbers, but you posted it anyway?
And pushed it as fact? Sounds like the same process that got us in this "war."
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 09:18 PM
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29. Hyperbole much?
OH wait, It's you. Of COURSE you do.
It was a poll.
Nobody died.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 05:41 AM
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37. Figures you wouldn't get the point
Think much?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:39 PM
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15. Al is playing this pitch perfectly -- it's going to be November n/t
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Semper_FiFi Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 08:06 PM
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28. LOL
I have been reading posts from Gore supporters that his entrance into the race is just around the corner. Now where i have i heard that phrase before?:evilgrin:

Do you mean this November? Or next year in 2008?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:13 PM
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30. Mock me all you like -- I've got wages with two DU'ers on this - I've ALWAYS said November
Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 10:13 PM by melody
Do a search for my posts and see. ;)
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Semper_FiFi Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:33 PM
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31. I'll take your word for it...I guess it was just my imagination...
running away with me...all those posts I have read about Gore jumping in in June, July, August (for sure), September et al. were all just fig-newtons of my imagination...but still, I must ask you, do you mean November 2007 or 2008?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 11:01 PM
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32. I can't speak for everyone, I can only speak for myself obviously
And I know y'all with other candidates at heart hate the idea of Al jumping in, but
I suspect you'll be very surprised come November of 2007. :)
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Semper_FiFi Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 05:22 PM
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38. I don't have any candidate "at heart". And I would love to have Al jump into the race
I just don't believe he will. He has made no comments that he IS going to run. I just think there are lots of people who are wishful thinkers.

But November is "just around the corner" so we should soon find out who is wrong on the issue.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:40 PM
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16. I think the odds would be WAY better if Gore was actually in the race right now.
Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 01:40 PM by TheGoldenRule
Also, did anyone notice how much money Hillary & Obama have? :wow:

Looks like they want to "buy" the presidency. Wonder how much of Obamas money is because of Oprah? Makes ya go hmmmmmmmmmm
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:43 PM
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20. It might be because of her show and the use of her name in fundraising
but according to records, Oprah hasn't given his campaign a penny.
I was surprised on that one.
Obama has a lot of $5 and $10 donors. That is where the bulk of his money has come from if I am not mistaken.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:09 PM
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22. Oprahs name is worth it's weight in gold. But I don't think that it will equal a win for Obama if
Gore runs. Gore is just too popular and he has the right message and direction most of America is concerned with right now-Global warming.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:41 PM
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17. Is that like John 3:16?
I saw that at a football game.

Kidding. :hi:
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:43 PM
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19. The way Al Gore/USA was ripped off
I agree with those who say he's playing it perfectly, if indeed that's the case. :) Stick it to 'em Al!!

Still keeping my fingers crossed.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 11:04 PM
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33. This site's a joke, right?
Ron Paul and Mitt Romney polling the same?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 11:42 PM
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36. This could be the best election of my life
if Gore jumps in.

He'll probably receive millions in donations as soon as he announces.
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