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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:12 PM
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Deutsch Bank €29 billion short.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,507074,00.html

Deutsche Bank-Sized Jitters in Germany

Deutsche Bank's announcement that it is short €29 billion has Germans fretting. If the country's biggest bank is in trouble, what does that mean for the others? Commentators think it could be bad news.

Then, on Thursday, banking giant Deutsche Bank admitted that it too had issues stemming from the waves washing over from the American housing market. CEO Josef Ackermann told German television that his bank had "made mistakes" (more...) and that some €29 billion in credit agreements would have to be reassessed.

That may sound like a ton of money, but for an institution the size of Deutsche Bank, it hardly counts as a calamity: Ackermann said the main consequence will be putting on ice 4,000 new hires which had been planned for this year.

Still, the symbolic value cannot be ignored: If Deutsche Bank is suffering from the current situation on the capital markets, what problems must its smaller brothers and sisters (more...) be facing? Lloyd Blankfein, head of Goldman Sachs, thinks there is more to come. "I think it is very possible that more corrections are on their way," he says.

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"It seems as if there is only one way out of the dilemma: transparency.... Only if all the parties involved openly reveal their commitments and their exposures to loss can the crisis in confidence be overcome .... That will be painful for many, but it cannot be avoided, because the banks' misguided speculation cannot be undone."

"In this spirit, Deutsche Bank has now published some figures and admitted its mistakes. The burden of these mistakes is borne by borrowers, who now face increased interest rates, and also by the people who will no longer be hired this year by Deutsche Bank. But if the crisis continues to smolder and pushes the economy into a recession, then many more people will pay the price of the money jugglers' mistakes."

Financial daily Handelsblatt looks beyond the Deutsche Bank announcement to glean some lessons from the finance crunch in its entirety:

"The short-term lesson to be learned from the credit crisis, which is far from over, is crystal clear: Do what you want -- the taxpayers will bail you out. In the end it's not just the cost of direct bailouts that will have to be borne by the taxpayers. If central banks across the world now cut interest rates in order to prop up the banking market, then it will be the citizens who end up paying through higher inflation rates."

"The self-regulatory mechanisms in the financial sector have failed and even rating agencies lacked the imagination to foresee this crisis. Now those states with stricter regulations will have to intervene. But this is not about introducing more bureaucracy. Quite the opposite: The regulators should look more closely and intervene where they see grubby practices or extremely high risks, even if there are no formal regulations. This requires strong and competent officials."

"The experience with the subprime crisis shows that there is no point relying on responsible customers. The banks should be cooperating to improve the regulatory system. In the end it is not in their interests to end up relying too heavily on the state."

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Paula Sims Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:15 PM
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1. In the words of the great philosopher Scooby Doo
"Rut ro" . . .
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:18 PM
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2. A favorite of mine and my daughters!!!!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:35 PM
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3. ALl the fault of the Bush-Cheney scumbags
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:38 PM
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4. Ripple
How far is this going to go? I get the feeling it's going to get very ugly somewhere down the road.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:40 PM
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5. The dollar is worth almost nothing....Bush propped it up but its not going to last through his
presidency.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:47 AM
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9. This is just the beginning
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 04:11 AM by DrDebug
Northern Rock, Bear Stearns, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sach are just the first to admit that they made some virtual billion dollar/euro/pound investments based on nothing but air, but there are bound to be many more with incredibly huge debts. The lowering of the interest rates by the FEDs is a mere bandaid intended for the banks (and not for the general public) because they know that many are facing huge losses.


The Great Credit Crisis: The Financial System is Paralyzed
or Who’s Got a Turd in his Briefcase?


by James Petras / August 25th, 2007

All the major financial analysts claim the ongoing and deepening financial crisis is in large part the result of investor uncertainty. This is because the investment banks, derivatives and hedge funds placed high risk, sub-prime mortgages and junk bonds, along with other more reliable debt paper into packages and sold them to institutional and private bankers who in turn ‘retailed’ them around the world.

The rating agencies, who are paid by the sellers, all gave top billing (AA, AAA) to these hybrid securities, mortgages and junk bonds, encouraging investment advisers to push them on to risk-averse client looking for higher returns than Treasury notes. Most of the investors do not know whose and what paper they are holding, nor how much their hedge funds are losing or have lost. Those who can, have pulled out. The banks are reticent to loan to any applicant. Leverage funds are a dirty word among lenders. Hedge funds are either selling assets to pay loans or not telling what they own or owe. Derivatives have been deflowered. Central Banks in the US, Japan and the European Union have poured (and keep pouring) over $250 billion to the private banks hoping to create liquidity but the banks won’t lend — because, as one prominent banker in Palm Springs told me “Nobody knows who’s got a turd (worthless investments) in his brief case.”

Meanwhile, Goldman Sach, Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers are all closing down bankrupt investment funds or trying to prop them up. The Fed props up all the worst speculators in the name of ‘saving the financial system’ — in a way that it would never prop up the failing American health system. The financial system has the ‘runs’ and infusions of Fed funds have failed to block the ‘run for cover’.

“Everybody for himself…and don’t look back’, is the watchword of leading equity bankers. The Democrats are calling for the usual inconsequential Congressional hearings about what went wrong. Congressmen Levin and Barney Frank will ask the wrong questions to the wrong people, going after the weakest fall guys — the rating agencies — for overrating the fraudulent deals, not the dealmakers themselves. The ‘turds’ in the briefcases are big and smelly but no one knows how big: $250 billion or $500 billion. There are a lot of bankers and hedge fund billionaires walking around with invisible clothespins on their noses.

(...)

http://dissidentnews.wordpress.com/2007/08/26/the-great-credit-crisis-the-financial-system-is-paralyzed/
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:46 PM
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6. Hang on-it's gonna be a HELLUVA bumpy ride!
:scared:
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:10 PM
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7. can anyone say
global economic collapse? and after the governments are so deeply indebt that they cannot afford any social, economic or just any money at all, who is gonna step in? how about haliburton the first corporate government (well at least the first public corporate governmetn) i swear every day i fear the NWO stranglehold on the world even more.
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:18 AM
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8. Corporate government... all I can say is, I hope I get elf ears.
:-D Bring on the Shadowrun.

(Hey, it's better to laugh than cry, although these days, I'm laughing the batshit-insane laughter of the doomed. Bwahaha!)
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 04:51 AM
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10. Yeah, it would suck to be ork or troll.
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 04:51 AM by Progs Rock
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 05:11 AM
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11. We may have finally screwed the pooch on brand America
The US has long benefitted from its status as a sterling investment, THE blue chip of blue chips. Now that our quivering tower of ponzi schemes and hucksterism is set to bone everyone worldwide in the ass, we might end up tagged as little better than a junk bond. That would hurt us mightily, for a long time. Way to fucking go, Republicans and corporate leeches.
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