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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:26 PM
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Al Gore's climate change film 'is propaganda'
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 10:30 PM by RestoreGore
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/09/28/eagore128.xml

Al Gore's climate change film 'is propaganda'
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 28/09/2007

Al Gore's climate change documentary, , contains "serious scientific inaccuracies, political propaganda and sentimental mush", the High Court in London has heard.

Stewart Dimmock: 'Indoctrinating school children in this manner is unprecedented and unacceptable'

The attack came as Stewart Dimmock, 45, a father of two, challenged the Government's decision to provide every secondary school in England with a copy of the former American vice-president's film as part of an environmental campaign.

Paul Downes, appearing for Mr Dimmock, argued that the key flaw of the film was that it was partisan, aimed at influencing rather than informing, and lacked balance.

Mr Dimmock, a lorry driver who has children aged 11 and 14, wants the court to declare that the Government acted unlawfully and quash the decision to authorise distribution to more than 3,500 schools.

Speaking before the case, Mr Dimmock, from Dover, said: "Climate change is important, but it should be taught to children in a neutral and measured manner.

"Indoctrinating school children in this manner is unprecedented and unacceptable."

The hearing continues.
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There's always one. And of course, he presents no hard facts only his own emotions.
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:28 PM
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1. I bet he asked to be paid in euros not dollars
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:30 PM
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2. I sure could guess who put him up to it
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:33 PM
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3. OMG
That is propaganda?????:wtf: The propaganda in this country is rampant, but that isn't propaganda.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:36 PM
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4. Dimmock

Dimmock


A witless, stupid person. From 'you charlie', with added ground force

You girt dozy dimmock

Urban Dictionary
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dimmock
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:41 PM
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5. The name kind of suits him doesn't it?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:46 PM
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6. Tailor-made.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:57 PM
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7. Here's some more propeganda for the lorry driver:

The photograph taken in 1928, above, shows how the Upsala Glacier, part of the South American Andes in Argentina, used to look. The ice on the Upsala Glacier today, shown in 2004 below, is retreating at least 180 ft. per year


Since 1979, the size of the summer polar ice cap has shrunk more than 20 percent. (Illustration from NASA)


Melting has increased significantly at the edges of Greenland's ice cap (shown in June 2001 and 2003). Photo: NASA


Kilimanjaro's ice cap in 1993 (above), and seven years later in 2000 (below).

Maybe we should teach about Hitler in a "neutral and measured manner", too. :eyes:

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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:50 AM
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8. Sure it is - but it's good
It *is* aimed at influencing. It *is* aimed at getting the viewer to draw a specific conclusion, based on carefully presented bits of data with some flash and emotional appeal, done in a way that hits at the target audience, not over their heads. It *is* propaganda. It's damned fine propaganda. HOWEVER, it being propaganda doesn't make it wrong or bad, and it doesn't mean that the bits of data are false OR that the conclusion is false.

These assclowns like the one in the article seem to think that they are the only ones who are allowed to make propaganda. Bullshit. So can we. They seem to believe that anyone presenting a liberal or even a scientific point of view is obligated to also present some mudbrained neocon "theory" alongside it for balance. Again, bullshit! This is the kind of thinking that leads to creationism being given equal time with the theory of evolution.

I think it's high time we reclaim the fine art of propaganda for ourselves, and maybe even the word itself. Three cheers for biased political communications intended to influence an audience to make the RIGHT conclusions! How else are we supposed to get the point across and win hearts and minds? Give out sad-faced stuffed panda bears and coupons for hummous plates? Hell, no! We make films, we make TV, we make radio, we take it into the theaters and into the living rooms and into the drive-time cars, and when necessary, onto the soapboxes and into the streets.

Well, for me, I'll carry it into bed. I'm tired, and will probably regret this rant in the morning ;-)
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:31 AM
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9. Well, what he doesn't realize is that it wasn't poltical...
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 05:33 AM by RestoreGore
Which only shows that by him saying that he didn't get it. Al Gore did not show footage of himself in years past to "campaign" politically. He showed it to make the point that in our lives we all come close and actually lose those things that we love the most, in particular if we are too distracted to notice them slipping away. And now the Earth is slipping away because we are all distracted and he is pleading with us on a moral level to not let that happen and to tell us that he is now devoting his energies to not letting that happen. Of course, far be it for a tool of whoever or whatever group is more than likely backing him to see that. This is what happens and is a clear example of how progress gets bogged down in BS when things are only seen through a political lens.
Oh, and thanks for the rant. ;-)
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:49 PM
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10. A moral level - that's well put!
Perhaps because the moral and the political have been confused and intermingled so often by the right, it makes it difficult now for a listener to distinguish between a moral call to action and a political one. Seems like politics is all there is these days.

:-) ranty ranty ranty! Wind me up and watch me go... haven't had a good foulmouthed rant in a while.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:24 PM
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11. yes, and the right's perception of what is moral
Is usually far from what truly is.

Rant on. ;-)
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:14 PM
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14. ...
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:26 PM
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12. sometimes there's no such thing as balance...sometimes there is only one right answer
and sometimes there are five

(to paraphrase Murrow)
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:19 PM
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13. what really breaks me up is the part about "sentimental mush"
And this is what they're taking to the High Court? If that is a crime, I suppose they're also going to drag JK Rowling into the dock for that scene in the final Harry Potter book where Hagrid is carrying the body.
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