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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:16 PM
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Rangoon: ‘army mutiny’ reported-Troops REFUSE To Fire On Crowds
Rangoon: ‘army mutiny’ reported
Troops refuse to fire
on crowds

Reports from Rangoon suggest soldiers are mutinying. It is unclear the numbers involved. Reports cite heavy shooting in the former Burmese capital.

The organisation Helfen ohne Grenzen (Help without Frontiers) is reporting that "Soldiers from the 66th LID (Light Infantry Divison) have turned their weapons against other government troops and possibly police in North Okkalappa township in Rangoon and are defending the protesters. At present unsure how many soldiers involved."

Soldiers in Mandalay, where unrest has spread to as we reported this morning, are also reported to have refused orders to act against protesters.

Some reports claim that many soldiers remained in their barracks. More recent reports now maintain that soldiers from the 99th LID now being sent there to confront them.

Growing numbers of protestors are gathering in Rangoon, with 10,000 reported at the Traders Hotel and 50,000 at the Thein Gyi market. The police are reported to have turned water cannons against crowds at Sule Pagoda.

Many phone lines into the Burmese state have now been cut, mobile networks have been disabled and the national internet service provider has been taken off-line.

more at:
http://www.newsdeskspecial.co.uk/2007/09/army-mutiny-rep.html#more
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:16 PM
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1. This could be over very soon.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:19 PM
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2. I pray these reports are true. Most of the soldiers are Buddhists too!
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:19 PM
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3. This would be so awesome if confirmed.... I sure hope for the sake of the...
protesters this is so... Maybe they will set the Democratically elected person free as well.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:21 PM
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4. Thank you kpete
:hug:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:22 PM
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5. I deplore the resulting violence, but this is "good" news.
"Good" only in the sense that it may signal the end of a brutal military dictatorship.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:31 PM
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9. And it gives us reason to believe that America might just stay free.
Good thought!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:40 PM
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13. I like the way you think, Doc. eom
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:22 PM
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6. K & R
Very interesting, indeed.
:kick:

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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:23 PM
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7. That is courage
well done young men, well done.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:32 PM
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10. Young men AND WOMEN! Many Buddhist Nuns have also laid their lives on the line.
Our prayers are with all the Burmese people.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:36 PM
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12. I am talking about the soldiers who are risking death
that is why I am singling out the "young men". Stop being such a nit picker/
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:07 PM
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18. My mistake. My HONEST mistake. Jeez...
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 02:08 PM by Raster
Stop being such a(n) ....
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:16 PM
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21. no worries
I was tongue in cheek when I wrote it. I applauded the monks, male and female, in another thread, but was really impressed and moved by the soldiers too.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:19 PM
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24. As am I. And you're right, the courage that it takes to refuse the order to kill...
is extraordinary. It literally brought tears to my eyes to read that some soldiers were refusing to leave their barracks. I wish there was something we could do for them.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:24 PM
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33. Exactly
They, in some ways, have more to lose. The monks are totally prepared for this and, thru meditation and discipline are ready for this. These soldiers came to this conclusion and are acting in direct violation of their orders, a death sentence if I have ever seen one. I hope they are not killed.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:31 PM
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8. That is wonderful. One more reason to get rid of private mercenary armies in our country.
The soldiers are actually real people, just like us. Mercenaries are, well, mercenaries.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:41 PM
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15. excellent observation
that I had not considered before.

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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:32 PM
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11. Great news if this turns out to be true. n/t
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:41 PM
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14. I pray that it's true! n/t
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:51 PM
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16. the poor people have suffered since 1962. maybe they can finally
get their elected PM out of prison to take her rightful office after almost 20 years.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:53 PM
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17. Oh, please.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:10 PM
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19. The only troops I support are the ones that refuse to fight.
I hope this ends peacefully. It's not good, but it's better than it was.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:12 PM
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20. Would that OUR troops had such balls.
:mad:
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:28 PM
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27. Would that our PEOPLE did, too.
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:16 PM
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22. Such mixed news in there...though some of it inspiring
I also read the part about water cannons, cutting off of communications, more troops being sent to confront the resisters.
Hope, yet it's still a very very dangerous situation.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:17 PM
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23. Oh please let this be true.
They are shocking & awing me with their courage!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:23 PM
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25. Would be a true turning point
in this struggle.

Good for this division if true.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:25 PM
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26. k&r, thanks for the news.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:57 PM
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28. In China in '89, they had to bring in troops from the provinces to quell the protests
Because the local troops from Bejing refused to go out and attack the people who were in the streets.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:09 PM
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29. Paris 1968, the generals told De Gaulle they couldn't vouch for
which side their troops would be on if they were sent in.

I really, really hope we have that kind of military ourselves--but sometimes I have my doubts.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:18 PM
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30. Wait, they are refusing to fire on peaceful crowds of people?
We need to send some of our riot squads over there and teach them how to do it.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:12 PM
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31. REPORT: ‘Coup’ claimed in Rangoon: Than Shwe 'deposed by No 2'
‘Coup’ claimed in Rangoon

September 28, 2007
12:00 PM


Military sources in Rangoon are claiming that the regime's number two, General Maung Aye (right), has staged a coup against Than Shwe, and that his troops are now guarding Aung San Suu Kyi's home. A meeting between him and Suu Kyi is expected. Maung Aye is army commander-in-chief and a renowned pragmatist.

Our diplomatic sources are also telling us that Aung San Suu Kyi has been moved to a police academy compound outside Rangoon, where she is expected to meet Maung Aye. As yet, though, we have no independent confirmation of this development.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:14 PM
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32. Great news
I hope Americans are learning.
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