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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:34 AM
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Iran parliament labels US army, CIA as terrorist groups
http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0709292663180149.htm

Iran-US-Parliament
Iranian lawmakers on Saturday labelled the US army and CIA as terrorist groups.

The parliament said in a statement that the US army has a record of terrorist operations citing bombardment of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with nuclear weapons and CIA has been involved in establishment of terror networks and training terrorists worldwide.

"Bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki with atomic weapons and throwing depleted uranium bombs in the Balkans, Iraq and Afghanistan, waging war on Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, and supporting Israel in its crackdown on Palestinian and Lebanese people are the record of the US army and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)," the statement said.

The statement further noted that they have also supported Iraq former dictator Saddam Hussein, and terrorist groups including Mujahideen Khalq Organization (MKO), Al Qaeda and Taliban, and established secret prisons in Europe. CIA has also record of degrading treatment of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay in Cuba and Abu Ghraib in Iraq.

The MPs added that practices of the US army and CIA are tantamount to terrorist acts in contravention of the international norms and conventions.

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:37 AM
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1. BWHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Ain't it the truth! K&R!
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:40 AM
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2. well, its hard to argue with reality
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:40 AM
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3. There goes the high ground.
lol
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:41 AM
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4. true

the ugliest of the ugly
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:45 AM
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5. exactly what our parliament did last week. well done.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:46 AM
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6. wooops... it seems they forgot that "little" (albeit, "hidden") truth:
Know your BFEE: Nazis couldn’t win WWII, so they backed Bushes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1547206&mesg_id=1547206

Retaliation.
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GeminiProgressive Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:12 AM
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7. HA
even a stopped clock is right twice a day. The whole world and even now a lot of Americans know that the CIA is a terrorist organization. They hired Nazi's and have been behind the murder of literally millions of people in the third world. We owe reparations to the whole world.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:32 PM
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21. The Bushes owe reparations, yes.
I wonder why the MPs did not include these (now) widely "available" truths:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x3087

Maybe they don't know them, or perhaps, since their own criminal pretzeldent is a well known holocaust denier, maybe they did not want to "embarass" him...

Too bad. It would have been "funny" to watch the "shock" of the entire "ignorant" world if they had included those truths.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:14 AM
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8. They didn't even mention Shah Pahlavi.
We helped get rid of Mossadegh.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:35 AM
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13. Who are they? NT
NT
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:39 AM
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15. One was the elected leader of Iran that we deposed
and the Shah was more or less the (brutal) puppet we put in.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:16 AM
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9. It would be hard to defend the CIA as far as not being a terrorist organization.
Just look at its history in Latin America and the Middle East.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:38 AM
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14. Not to mention Iran and Iraq. n/t
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:20 AM
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10. Hmm..Bullshit
I deployed to the balkans and am no terrorist. Left my soon to be wife and college courses to basically prevent Serbs from killing muslim ethnic albanians.

IFOR/KFOR actions never approached anything that could be close to terrorism.

Enemy of my enemy not my friend. Iran should should the hell up and try not to start a war. No reason to give the USMC a reason to settle up with them for Beirut.
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GeminiProgressive Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:29 AM
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11. Depleted Uranium-Just the Tip of the Iceberg in Serbia
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0131-05.htm

BELGRADE — Already in Serbia the effects of NATO’s depleted uranium munitions are apparently being felt by members of the Yugoslav Army who fought in Kosovo. Two former soldiers were recently discovered to have cancerous eye tumors. The Belgrade weekly tabloid Nedeljni Telegraf recently reported that three officers from the Army’s Pristina Corps died of leukemia, while 10 others now suffer from the disease; four of them terminally. They join the dozens of soldiers involved with the wars in the Balkans now sick from what is being referred to as “Balkans Syndrome.”
Unfortunately, it wasn’t until soldiers from Western countries began dying of cancer and getting sick that depleted uranium in the Balkans became an international issue for the corporate media. A fact not lost on people here.

“The West wouldn’t give a damn if their troops weren’t getting sick and dying,” says 53 year-old taxi driver Nenad Bulatovic. “If we get sick, that’ s collateral damage. We call that America’s Milosevic Syndrome.”

While leading scientists and environmentalists in Serbia are indeed concerned about the effects of DU munitions, they say it is just the tip of the toxic iceberg. “Depleted uranium is just one page in a very thick book of the ecological and health catastrophe caused by the NATO bombing,” says Vukasin Pavlovic, Director of the Belgrade-based ECOCenter.

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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:40 AM
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16. Terrible shame, I am sure the residents
of Sarajevo wish we all stayed home. Serbs are still a bit pissed we stopped their genocide. They were surpised and unhappy russia did not help them in a war with NATO.

I dealt with DU as a cargo its toxicity is primarily from being heavy metal. I have dealt with it in industrial uses as my employment requires. Funny there are no cells around the fabrication facilities where it is milled.

Only from people who had it shot at their hard targets in a war they started seem to have problems.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:34 AM
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12. How about bombing Radio Television Serbia?
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/01/26/1632224

JEREMY SCAHILL: General Clark, on that issue of the bombing of Radio Television Serbia, Amnesty International called it a war crime.

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: Excuse me -- I'm not --

JEREMY SCAHILL: Amnesty called it a war crime and it's condemned by all journalist organizations in the world. It killed makeup artists.

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: I want to answer this fellow. Because the truth was that that -- first of all, we gave warnings to Milosevic that that was going to be struck. I personally called the CNN reporter and had it set up so that it would be leaked, and Milosevic knew. He had the warning because after he got the warning, he actually ordered the western journalists to report there as a way of showing us his power, and we had done it deliberately to sort of get him accustomed to the fact that he better start evacuating it. There were actually six people who were killed, as I recall.

JEREMY SCAHILL: There were 16.

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: I recall six.

JEREMY SCAHILL: I was there at the time and I knew the families. They do hold Milosevic accountable and they also hold you accountable, sir.

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: They were ordered to stay there.

JEREMY SCAHILL: And they were makeup artists, and they were engineers, and they were technicians

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: I remember reading the story, but I want to tell you about it.

JEREMY SCAHILL: Amnesty International said you committed a war crime by bombing that.

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: It was all looked at by the International Criminal Tribunal crime by Yugoslavia. All of my actions were examined and they were all upheld by the highest law in the United States.

JEREMY SCAHILL: And you think a media outlet is a legitimate target?

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: No, but when it is used as command and control, it is. But then

JEREMY SCAHILL: Even if it kills…

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: Now wait a minute, you have to let me finish and then I will let you finish.

JEREMY SCAHILL: Go ahead.

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: What I said is, we would give them the warnings. It was part of the command and control systems. It was approved as a legitimate target under the laws of land warfare and went through the U.S. Government. That was the basis on which we struck. We actually called the bombers back one time, because there was still -- it was still unclear to us that we weren't absolutely certain. What we know is that Milosevic ordered them to stay there, and it was wrong, but I was doing my duty, and I have been looked at by the law, so -- I mean, I respect Amnesty International. I think they're a good organization, but --

JEREMY SCAHILL: But do you feel any remorse for the killing of civilians that you essentially were overseeing?

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: Yes, I do.
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GeminiProgressive Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:42 AM
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17. NATO bombing of Chinese Embassy
On May 7, 1999 in Operation Allied Force, NATO bombs hit the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, Yugoslavia, killing three Chinese journalists and outraging the Chinese public. At the time of the bombing, the embassy was located in Novi Beograd – later, a new site was designated for the embassy in Dedinje. NATO later apologized for the bombing, saying that it occurred because of an outdated map provided by the CIA. This was challenged by a joint report from The Observer (UK) and Politiken (Denmark) newspapers,<2> which claimed that NATO intentionally bombed the embassy because it was being used as a relay station for Yugoslav army radio signals. CIA director George Tenet claimed the operation which led to the bombing of the Chinese embassy was the only one organized and directed by his agency.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_Bombing_of_the_Chinese_embassy_in_Belgrade
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GeminiProgressive Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:44 AM
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18. Chronology of NATO attacks
http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/kosovo/Kosovo-Chronology9.html

March 24
NATO bombing begins.

April 3
NATO destroyed the Most Slobode (Freedom Bridge) across Danube River to Novi Sad, and the bridge across the Danube that connects Backa Palanka with Croatian Bank.

April 5
On the evening of Monday, April 5, three NATO missiles and/or bombs were reported to have landed in a civilian neighborhood of Aleksinac, a village about 100 miles south of Belgrade, killing five civilians. Tanjug News Agency reported seventeen civilians killed. NATO expressed regret for the loss of life and called the incident an "accident of war." The intended target, NATO said, was a military barracks positioned nearby.

April 9
NATO admited damage to civilian homes in a strike on the main telephone exchange in Pristina, regretting "unintended damage or loss of civilian life" when a bomb struck some 200 to 300 meters from the target in what seems to be a small residential area.

April 12
A civilian passenger train traveling from Belgrade to Skopje, Macedonia, was hit by NATO bombs as it crossed a bridge on the Juzna Morava River, on the morning of Monday, April 12. At least ten people were killed and sixteen were wounded. (The Yugoslav government reported that fifty-five passengers were killed.) NATO reported that it had targeted the bridge because it was an important supply route into Kosovo. The bridge was at Grdelica Klisura, some 300 km south of Belgrade.

April 14
NATO acknowledged mistakenly attacking a civilian vehicle north of Djakovica, on the road between Djakovica and Decani. NATO called the incident an accident of war that resulted from an attempt to destroy Serb military forces who had set fire to civilian homes in the area. A NATO spokesman admitted that the pilot of an F-16 fired on what he believed to be military trucks, and expressed "deep regret."

April 18
NATO targeted economic sites reportedly in order to chip away at Milosevic's system of political and economic patronage. These sites include a tobacco factory and warehouse in Nis.

April 23
Sixteen employees of Serbian Television and Radio died in a NATO strike on its headquarters.

April 28
NATO admitted bombing the residential area of Surdulica in southern Serbia, when a missile intended to hit a military target strayed off course. Serb media reported that ten to twenty civilians were killed.

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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:52 AM
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20. You are pretty off base here..
I mean if you are a serb, I understand you line of thought.

However we killed french citizens landing in normandy. People die in war, sometimes the wrong people die.

NATO took reasonable action to prevent a growing war. Read up, get back to me when you have some context.





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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:46 AM
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19. Umm No.
We stopped Serbs from killing minority albanians. We (NATO) probably prevented a wider conflict. If the level of violence we used killed people who did not deserve it that is sad, but a war involving neighboring nations would have been much worse.

Doing nothing would be much worse.

There are rules that govern action in war. The serbs broke ALL of them. If we killed observation posts and command and control they set up in defiance of the laws of war so be it.

By the time I was there it was peacekeeping and rebuilding. However being blown through the roof of my vehicle by an old AT mine was a concern.

Point is we were there to stop people from killing each other.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:39 PM
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23. What does it mean for a TV station or radio station...
...to be "command and control"?
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:26 PM
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22. All patriots should come to the aid of their country by refuting every erroneous/scurrilous
falsehood uttered by this regime.
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