You want to derail Hillary? Stop doing business with some of these companies.

Get as many people to stop doing business with them and even get thousands of people to call some of these companies and demand that they help get HR 676 passed and also repeal and replace Medicare Part D with a benefit in Part B or they lose your business.

I have listed the top donors to Hillary Clinton.

1 Citigroup Inc $322,460
2 Goldman Sachs $279,640
3 Time Warner $222,290
4 JP Morgan Chase & Co $174,075
5 Metropolitan Life $167,600
6 Credit Suisse Group $163,150
7 Skadden, Arps et al $162,680
8 Corning Inc $156,250
9 Morgan Stanley $148,960
10 Cablevision Systems $141,650
11 Viacom Inc $139,435
12 International Profit Assoc $129,400
13 Ernst & Young $128,700
14 Kirkland & Ellis $119,850
15 Kushner Companies $119,000
16 New York Life Insurance $110,250
17 Walt Disney Co $105,965
18 Patton Boggs $101,638
19 Sullivan & Cromwell $94,350
20 News Corp $94,125

It is an utterly pointless feel-good gesture.

more business. Thanks and enjoy wasting your time with nonsense.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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I didn't know we are now being urged to boycott companies and persons that contribute to Democrats...

Does that mean I can't watch the NBA on TNT because Magic Johnson has endorsed and contributed to Clinton?

I stopped doing busines with them 5 years ago when I tool my son to the hell hole called Disneyland.

an an inexpensive way to visit. We have gone many times

have been voted by women as the best place to work in the country?

They provide 100% of the cost of rich health insurance plans.

They provide day care centers.

They provide paid sabbaticals.

They provide paid tuition.


I personally believe your act of hate in wanting democrats to stop doing business with any corp that does not fall in lock step with your political agenda, without knowing much about the enormous deeds the corp is doing to move their nation forward is sheer lunacy.

have been voted by women as the best place to work in the country?

They provide 100% of the cost of rich health insurance plans.

They provide day care centers.

They provide paid sabbaticals.

They provide paid tuition.




I find it so good that alot of people find these companies good to work for. My friend lost his home in July 2007 because he could not afford health care. What about my friend? You want people to enjoy working for companies, but you don't give a damn about people like my friend who lost his home because we don't have single payer universal health care.

Oh my friend's not a deadbeat. He ran an automotive repair business for decades!! Then he RETIRED and got cancer.

So much for your compassion for people who run businesses and then RETIRE.

Thanks DLC and Hillary supporters.

Does Hillary "hate" cancer survivors or something?

Where are the "others" this lovely Sunday morning.

is now proof positive that you don't give a damn about those less fortunate? Do you have any idea how many people work for big corporations? Should we write them all off as not being pure enough for the Democratic party?

The Medicare Part D that does not help the middle class but enriches the drug companies and the health insurance companies and leave many middle class people to either sign up with a bare bones Medicare Part D to avoid the late sign up penalty but not use Medicare Part D, or not sign up with Medicare Part D at all.

Hillary will not support single payer universal health care. PERIOD.

Until that happens people like my friend will lose their homes and enrich Century 21 and other real estate brokers and the health insurance industry.

Your attitude says, "I've got mine so fuck you, I'm voting for Hillary anyway".

and I don't work for a corporation. You're leaving an awful lot of people out of the Democratic party if you write off anyone who works for a corporation.All Democratic candidates are submitting health care plans, vote in the primaries for whomever you agree with,but don't demonize whole segments of our party and judge them by what they do for a living.

which means a corporate controlled health care system like the republicans did to Medicare with their useless for the middle class part D program.

If people work for these companies then fine but I and other people have the right to decide who to buy from and not buy from.

The fright wing hate Hillary care because they mistakenly consider it too liberal and I dislike it because it does not help the middle class and enriches corporations.


With the Republican created Medicare Part D The fright wing have their tax money funneled to rich corporations, sort of like communism run by the private sector. LOL

single payer alternative as one of her choices -

the "like Medicare alternative policy" is a government - not an insurance company - alyernative

- indeed that is the item that most upsets the GOP - folks may choose single payer under Hillary's plan.

n/t

Money appears fungible. So the company in effect has made these donations through their employees.

Look at Wendy's corporation. On opensecrets.org Wendy's has never given to Democrats. Similar with Outback Steakhouse as I recall.

The company sets up the pac for their employees. Let the individuals make their donations without a pac then.

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We sure wouldn't want EVERY citizen to have access to health care, day care centers, paid sabbaticals for service to our community, and tuition assistance for education!!

God forbid!

What, then, would induce people to swear allegiance to their corporate leadership??

Wear the corporate logo proudly and sing its praises. Alleluia! Alleluia!





(How can people be so fucking obtuse??)

(1) you've incorrectly defined "a good corporate citizen" - - corporate citizenship refers to the way in which a CEO integrates philanthropic and volunteer strategies with the company's business procedures and processes, it has nothing at all to do with cafeteria type benefits the company offers to its employees

(2) your superlatives are outright lies

(3) the dull-witted sarcasm dripping from your brush appears to have splached into your eyes

I truly hope my post is not too far over your head. You can handle a few thousand feet, correct?

That makes them eeeeeevil. Ipso facto. Didn't you know that?



As if a handful of DUers boycotting Citigroup is going to even cause a ripple. Like they'll even notice.

Just trying to cover his bases...

Murdoch fund-raiser for Clinton creates buzz
Outrage, confusion in political circles over media mogul’s decision





Updated: 7:09 p.m. ET May 12, 2006
NEW YORK - Media mogul Rupert Murdoch, whose Fox News Channel and other conservative news outlets have been skewering Hillary Rodham Clinton for years, will host a summer fund-raiser for the senator, mystifying some observers and enraging others.

Especially incensed are liberal activists, who for months have decried what they see as a shift to a right on Clinton’s part as the Democrat contemplates a run for president in 2008. They are stunned that she is associating with a man viewed as a cornerstone of the “vast right-wing conspiracy,” a term Clinton herself employed.

-snip

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12762092/

:eyes:

sounds crazy but it might just work.

Is the money from PACs supported by these compaines or did you add up the individual donations of people working for those companies? It's an important difference.

to a graft-free standard.

To my knowledge, only one is voluntarily doing so.

If so, you probably "own" some of these corporations already.

Arguing against Hillary is one thing - advocating actions to 'derail' her, no matter how naive and ineffectual, should not be allowed.

particular candidate is part of primary campaigning. Get a grip.

I personally consider it my duty as someone who opposes imperialism, militarism, globalism and corporatism, to do all I can to prevent someone who is FOR these things from becoming the Democratic nominee -- and I have every right to do so.

Advocating torpedoing a Dem candidate is against DU rules. Debating their platforms, etc. isn't.

I think Hillary Clinton is the Warrior Queen of the New World Order and I damn well AM going to advocate against her, because I think she is bad for the whole damn planet.

No one's saying, "don't vote for ANY Dems" -- we're just saying, "PLEASE don't vote for THIS one".

sw

indeed! Perfect moniker for her. :thumbsup:

:D

Or do you not know the meaning of corporatism?

A woman from Minnesota who has an avatar of the Venus of Willendorf and a sig line from the I Ching is opposed to globalism? How's that work?

Which is generally what people understand the shorthand term "globalism" to mean.

I love the worldwide sharing of knowledge, but that has absolutely nothing to do with predatory capitalism and "Free Trade".

sw

to the descendants of the people who created the Venus of Willendorf and the I Ching. Or do they not get to have jobs in your little worldview?

Congratulations. There's alot of heavy competition here.

Do you have any idea of what "free trade" is really about? It's about the multinational financial elites suborning the govenments of weak nations in order to take control of their natural resources and prevent any alternative economic systems to take root -- economic systems that might actually benefit the citizens of that nation as opposed to the corrupt elite.

In my worldview, nations and their people ought to be economically sovereign, in control of their own resources with the citizens of that nation being the prinicple beneficiaries thereof.

Cultural exchange is an entirely different matter. No 9 year-old child is working for 50 cents a week in order for me to read a book about archeaology. No arms are being sold to corrupt warlords in order for me to study the I Ching.

Btw, *I* am a descendent of "the people who created the Venus of Willendorf".

sw

is to go live in a preindustrial society for a while. seriously, go tell them that they get to live in a world in which infant mortality is close to 50%, where the elders are 45, where medicine men are the only doctors. show them the magic of penicillin or anti-malarials, and then say "but I want you to be self sufficient, so these are bad for you" how much time have you spent among not only the victims of globalisation, but the beneficiaries? globalisation has hurt the lives of millions, but it has improved the lives of billions. and it isn't going away (by the way, I trust you walk the talk, you buy only US manufactured goods, and do without otherwise, right?? how much of what you own was imported? I bet most of it, right? so the blood you see is on your hands, if everyone bought American, there would be no outsourcing of jobs, so who's the problem?)

who do you think, by the way, provided the labour to excavate the treasures you are reading about in your archaeology books? local unionized labor?

seriously, though. buy a plane ticket to Cambodia, and tell the people you meet to go back and live a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, see how they like it.

I make a clear distinction between global sharing of knowledge and culture and technology, on the one hand -- which is, without doubt, a delightful and positive development -- and CORPORATE globalization on the other; which is all about enriching the multinational financial elites by their exploitation of cheap labor and pirating of resources.

If you are truly unable to comprehend the difference between the two, then there really is nothing else for me to say to you.

sw

If i follow you, is that the people who develop technology should share it? So you want to share technology, but not labour? Lemme guess, you own no patents? Sorry, bad luck, if you can't compete in the big bad world, that is on you,

can you afford to do business with most of them? let's take a look, shall we?

1 Citigroup Inc $322,460. sure, you can have a Citi credit card, or travelers insurance.
2 Goldman Sachs $279,640. Do much investment banking, do you?
3 Time Warner $222,290 don't buy People. easy enough.
4 JP Morgan Chase & Co $174,075. ditto Goldman, Sachs.
5 Metropolitan Life $167,600. cancel your life insurance.
6 Credit Suisse Group $163,150/ ditto Goldman, Chase/
7 Skadden, Arps et al $162,680. Hire a lot of $350/hour attorneys, do you? perhaps been supoenad by congress?
8 Corning Inc $156,250. surely they make some consumer products, right? maybe some pyrex pans?
9 Morgan Stanley $148,960. See 2,4,6.
10 Cablevision Systems $141,650. Comcast, baby, that way your money goes to Republicans.
11 Viacom Inc $139,435. no more MTV or CSI, I guess. What about 60 minutes, is that still ok?
12 International Profit Assoc $129,400. I have no clue who these people are.
13 Ernst & Young $128,700. Need an auditor for your Fortune 500 Company? no?
14 Kirkland & Ellis $119,850. these lawyers are cheap at only $300/hour.
15 Kushner Companies $119,000. no clue.
16 New York Life Insurance $110,250. cancel that whole life policy, ma!
17 Walt Disney Co $105,965. phew, I can still watch soccer on Fox Soccer...
18 Patton Boggs $101,638. now the lawyers are up to $400/hour.
19 Sullivan & Cromwell $94,350. launching an IPO, or a merger? you need Sullivan's lawyers. good news is they are flat fee/percentage, not hourly, might be cheaper.
20 News Corp $94,125. shit, guess there is no soccer this weekend. thankfully I still have Univision (wait, GE donates to republicans. what should I do?)

and I'll give up my Pyrex when they pry it out of my cold,dead hands.

(that's the company that does my area, guess I could switch to satilite) and I have a season pass to Disneyland (which is already paid for so I'll continue to use it) so yeah unfortunately I do business with some of them. x(

But those Corperations off-shoot companies is another thing. They all own several sub-companies that I can never tell who belongs to what.

This is just ridiculous.

here in the Midwest likes Edwards or Kuchinich.

How many people did you poll?

Just this morning there was some moran blaming her for the 2000 election.

The very same ones that the Clinton administration pandered to and deregulated in the 1990's. To the party's and the entire country's detriment.

If anyone ever needed a reason NOT to support Hillary, that about says it all.

Like the dishonest, irresponsible corporate media? Like corruption and thievery among the financial corporations?

Hillary's your candidate.

ran in 2000 and many so called Dems voted for Nader and see what that brought us....Bush!!!! If Dems would have voted for Gore in Florida and not Nader( 97,421) Gore would have won....So, I suspect all you folks that wish to defeat HRC would like nothing more then allow another repbulican in the white house.....WOW!

Ben David

If you don't like her, fine. Enunciate WHY you don't.

She can withstand a financial hit.

And Boycotts. Don't. Work.

wish or something? Go get me the same info on Giuliani, Romney, and McCain...then we'll talk!

Talk about working both sides of the isle...reminds me of a line from The Distinguished Gentleman:

"Let me ask you something. With all of this money coming in from both sides, how does anything ever get done?"

"It doesn't. That's the beauty of the system."