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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:24 PM Original message |
Am I the first to say that I hope Bush *does* veto SCHIP? |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm With You |
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ChazII (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'd support a tax increase |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. I wouldn't mind taxing the fuck out of smokers, personally. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. they both are the main killers of people across this country |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Nobody gets out alive. |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Deaths Actually Save Money |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Slow, lingering deaths do not n/t |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:39 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Yep, Still Do |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Well, again, that really depends. |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. The Statistics I Have Seen Do Not Bear That Out |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Please link to statistics showing |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. That is a fact. more deaths too. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I don't disbelieve you. |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I've read it before, but have no link. I do, however, have personal experience |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
50. Those on the side of smokers |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 12:49 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Those against the smokers |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. **crickets** |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Good points - last I looked Alcohol was about 10% of the smoker's yearly deaths. n/t |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 07:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
31. its a regressive tax and affects the poor disproportionately. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. And if it discourages the poor from smoking, |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. is there any actual proof that higher cost of cigarettes prevent smokers from smoking? |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Lots, actually |
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Suziq (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 07:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
33. For Your Information . . . . |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. As you should. nt |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
4. stop funding the war machine in this country. |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yes, we spend way too much on defense |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. I think if you tax smokers you MUST equally tax people who eat at mcdonalds, people who are |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Taxation without representation? |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:12 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I think she means "only" smokers should vote on it... think about it |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:16 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. So basically, you're suggesting that |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It's not about *laws*, it's about *taxes*. Nice try at diversion though.. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Okay, so we'll stick to taxes. |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. CEOs & oil companies already "vote" on the issues for themselves. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. And you support this behavior? nt |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Support what behavior? |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Say, the CEOs and oil companies setting their own tax rates. |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. That's the whole problem with that, it's NOT right that they're doing it |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
43. You nonsmokers are deciding to tax us. Actually I came up with a better tax. Tax parents! |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. So you believe that groups should set their own tax/fee rates? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. of course not. just leave us alone. we are taxed to the hilt already. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Then your talk about "taxation without representation" is just whining. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
11. I would prefer a plain old across the board tax increase! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
26. Alcohol, tobacco, firearms |
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Ino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 04:45 AM Response to Original message |
27. So if I quit smoking, somewhere a small child will die! |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. One thing they don't/won't tell you is where the burden will be shifted to if taxing cigs caused |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 05:52 AM Response to Original message |
28. A Veto is a Win-Win-Win |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 08:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. yup. the regressive tax thing is distressing. |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
29. as a cigar smoker, i'm totally with you. RIDICULOUS taxes planned! |
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PDenton (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
30. I'm disappointed in Democrats |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
32. Tax the rich. Those making more than $1 million/year. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
44. the only suggestion I have is that |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
45. Best reason to keep it as it is: |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
49. I should be funded out of the profits all the war profiteers are |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
53. I don't know if you are the first but I agree. n/t |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
54. I would support a major tax increase on both tobacco and alcohol |
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