Somebody needs to say it "Those Burmese monks should be revered

for their sacrifices in the face of nearly-impossible odds, while the world stands by and does nothing."

That is all. :)

and mourned and reflected on.

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:cry:

I've been thinking about it every day since it started. I cry inside for such brave people...sigh.

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Hm.

someone could aid them in what I agree are nearly impossible odds.

I appologize if I offended anyone on that other thread, it was not my intent.

some people's inability to see that these men, Buddhist monks, were acting on their beliefs and principles...Which don't include committing violence against their oppressors. They did what they felt was correct and right, and they paid the ultimate price, so that we all may see reality for what it is. And that, I believe, needs to be honored and revered. Braver people than I will ever be...ever.

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so many people do not understand deep conviction, whether it is "religious" or not. At times we all need to evaluate our own beliefs/core philosophies and determine which of those we would be willing to die for.

I'm an ex-nun (also an ex-catholic), and I totally understand why they did what they did, and again, it brings me to tears.

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But I believe that OP came from the pain and fear of seeing what happened to the Burmese monks. It was kind of like a child's dream of power in order to stave off the boogyman.

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It's from the heart...Sometimes you just gotta say what's on your mind. :D

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:loveya:

No words.

in their entire lives.

k & r
sw

Terrible situation.


On edit - post is not spelled with an M!

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The other way's failure has been amply illustrated by example across the 20th century.

The recommend came earlier.

Unless justice is met, they are insulted.

Burma Resources Thread

Please add more as you hear of them.

Again, thank you.

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Thank you, b_b, for some sanity.

Sorry, I refuse to link to that disgusting waste of bandwidth.

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k &R!!!

They showed incredible courage to stand up against
the murderous thugs who rule their country, now.

What can we do/be done to stop these lying criminals
in government who have terrorized Burma?

Is military action the only thing that will work?

;(

The Chimes of Freedom

Far between sundown's finish an' midnight's broken toll
We ducked inside the doorway, thunder crashing
As majestic bells of bolts struck shadows in the sounds
Seeming to be the chimes of freedom flashing
Flashing for the warriors whose strength is not to fight
Flashing for the refugees on the unarmed road of flight
An' for each an' ev'ry underdog soldier in the night
An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

In the city's melted furnace, unexpectedly we watched
With faces hidden while the walls were tightening
As the echo of the wedding bells before the blowin' rain
Dissolved into the bells of the lightning
Tolling for the rebel, tolling for the rake
Tolling for the luckless, the abandoned an' forsaked
Tolling for the outcast, burnin' constantly at stake
An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

Through the mad mystic hammering of the wild ripping hail
The sky cracked its poems in naked wonder
That the clinging of the church bells blew far into the breeze
Leaving only bells of lightning and its thunder
Striking for the gentle, striking for the kind
Striking for the guardians and protectors of the mind
An' the unpawned painter behind beyond his rightful time
An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

Through the wild cathedral evening the rain unraveled tales
For the disrobed faceless forms of no position
Tolling for the tongues with no place to bring their thoughts
All down in taken-for-granted situations
Tolling for the deaf an' blind, tolling for the mute
Tolling for the mistreated, mateless mother, the mistitled prostitute
For the misdemeanor outlaw, chased an' cheated by pursuit
An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

Even though a cloud's white curtain in a far-off corner flashed
An' the hypnotic splattered mist was slowly lifting
Electric light still struck like arrows, fired but for the ones
Condemned to drift or else be kept from drifting
Tolling for the searching ones, on their speechless, seeking trail
For the lonesome-hearted lovers with too personal a tale
An' for each unharmful, gentle soul misplaced inside a jail
An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

Starry-eyed an' laughing as I recall when we were caught
Trapped by no track of hours for they hanged suspended
As we listened one last time an' we watched with one last look
Spellbound an' swallowed 'til the tolling ended
Tolling for the aching ones whose wounds cannot be nursed
For the countless confused, accused, misused, strung-out ones an' worse
An' for every hung-up person in the whole wide universe
An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing

A very smart person taught me that. It's true.

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Spiritual power fights brute force.

Oh, yeah... He already did it...

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K & R.

For a long time now, actually, I've been reflecting on the images of monks self-immolating during the Vietnam war as I lived through that time in my early teenage years. I've thought about it as I've searched for the differences in war resistance now, vs. then. It's such a graphic and horrific memory. I've wondered if it's going to take that level of commitment, self-sacrifice or just what to wake people up to stand up against all the violence in the world right now. Apparently, it does. So sad. I always believed people could learn from the mistakes of history; no longer.

to the point and spot on.

Proud to kick and recommend.

"While the world stands by and does nothing". Sickening and true.

Alyce

I watched Beyond Rangoon last night, fictional movie I know but the years this has been going on for Burma...

on the first page of every newspaper across the world.

peace

of the information and the world reaction situation? largely, it is private individuals going to some company sites in Burma, uplinking visuals. The world press springing on top of this? Who exactly? Chevron(surprise me).

Now for the tch, tch US government disapproval and official US media( four people killed variety). The powerful US satellites, not too busy churning film on Iran, provided what info exactly? And what lightning response besides China and the US telling their goons to cool it, the world is paying attention?

Every disaster, for sure is underrated so the exploitation and attention monopoly crowds get plenty of time to decide what we should know or how to deal with what is unavoidably known. Still, lost in the concern over what is happening in Burma- the usual agonizing inflamed meltdown of an over the top corporate sponsored tyranny- is how the story is coming out and what the esteemed leadership of the world's supposedly better corporate sponsored governments is doing.

In context in other words, the WH is mending fences temporarily with NK, Venezuela, and in its own charmless counterproductive way with the UN and can brook no loss of concentration on murder in Iran. There shouldn't just be Burmese monks on the line but people all over the planet....While we still have the unintentional hi tech communication bonanza available as lifelines to the truth.

and I have never met more kind, thoughtful, generous, brave people. It is the nature of their training to work with all the fears we all take for granted. Their clothing, food, shelter all come from the generosity of others and they learn to live in such a way as to let go and trust the universe. Even when that means the very worse things you could fear happen. The body and mind fall apart without the help of violent ruthless men. The only thing they truly fear are actions based on fears and delusions and an undisciplined heart. Those bhikkhus in Burma are amazing beings but any one who can live the life of a committed monastic is already far beyond ordinary.

Already done

Words cannot even begin to adequately convey how much I admire and respect the virtuosity, courage and heroism of those brave monks.

I agree, this story is almost too terrible to comprehend. Sagas like this remind me that there are indeed causes worth dying for, but it's such a profane tragedy that there was so little meaningful support from outside leaders, especially spiritual leaders.

and the civilians who have been slain at the hands and guns of the barbaric junta. I'll keep my swearing about the inhuman swine who did the slaying and those in power who do nothing to stop it to myself.

There will be nothing from China, India, Japan and a few other countries that will come into my house. A pox on all of their houses, and I hope the momentum builds for a boycott of the Olympics in Beijing.

Peace be with the monks and those who followed them.

Why bother fighting nearly-impossible odds? They're just not seeing the big picture for the next election.

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Under normal circumstances I'd say let's go in, but they're all better off without our "help" right now.
You know B*sh, you can dress him up but he's still a chimp.

I hope those people get help and justice.

Burmese people & everlasting shame to their killers.