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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:16 PM
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Official Thread # 4 Waxman Hearing on Blackwater:
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 01:18 PM by alyce douglas
Official Thread # 1 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Official Thread # 2 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1509
Defense and Security
Hearing on Private Security Contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan

On October 2, 2007, the Oversight Committee will hold a hearing to examine the use of private security contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The following witnesses are scheduled to testify:
* Erik Prince, Chairman, the Prince Group, LLC and Blackwater USA
* Ambassador David M. Satterfield, Special Adviser, Coordinator for Iraq, Department of State
* Ambassador Richard J. Griffin, Assistant Secretary, Bureau of Diplomatic Security and Director of the Office of Foreign Missions, Department of State
* William H. Moser, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Logistics Management, Department of State

kick
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:18 PM
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1. Thank you!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:19 PM
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4. no problem
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:18 PM
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2. KICK
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:18 PM
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3. Thank you!
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budibudinski Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:19 PM
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5. Thank You alyce douglas..Thread #4
Who is talking now? Had to go feed my granddaughter..she's 9 mo. & hungry..lol

Who are they talking to?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:22 PM
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9. It's these guys.
Ambassador David M. Satterfield, Special Adviser, Coordinator for Iraq, Department of State
* Ambassador Richard J. Griffin, Assistant Secretary, Bureau of Diplomatic Security and Director of the Office of Foreign Missions, Department of State
* William H. Moser, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Logistics Management, Department of State


I think
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:21 PM
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6. The Department of Justice, is kaput.
after Gonzo messed it up so badly.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:21 PM
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7. State Department is in cahoots with blackwater...they are in bed together
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:23 PM
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10. oh definitely, what treasonous bastards.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:30 PM
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19. correct, check this thread
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:26 PM
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86. for sure for sure!
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budibudinski Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:22 PM
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8. Who covered up the murder? Who is giving BW a free ride?
Don't want a department name..this was appreved by SOMEBODY.
Who was it ..
we all would like to know what is going on.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:24 PM
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13. these guys spew so much BS, it's sickening. they are doing
a great injustice to all of us.
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:24 PM
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11. I think they are alians n/t
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budibudinski Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:24 PM
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12. Who is talking? The guy in the suit with white hair...
who is he..someone from BW?
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budibudinski Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:25 PM
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15. Tks alyce..I see your Thread #9
This is interesting, and revealing.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:26 PM
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16. no it's this guy
Ambassador Richard J. Griffin,
Assistant Secretary, Bureau of Diplomatic Security and Director of the Office of Foreign Missions, Department of State
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budibudinski Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:28 PM
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18. OK..glad to be watching this with friends..You suppose Prince got
a call from Bush yet?
Telling him "Prince you did a heck of a job."
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:25 PM
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14. Thanks Alyce! Recommend!
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:28 PM
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17. My gaydar is going off with this guy...a closeted repug???
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 01:28 PM by angstlessk
oops spelling
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budibudinski Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:31 PM
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20. Are these guys Bush appointees also?
or are they holdovers from a previous admin? Anyone know?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:32 PM
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21. they work for condi
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:33 PM
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22. These are bush's boys
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budibudinski Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:42 PM
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24. You think they were ordered to give BW whatever they wanted &
ask no questions?

Who is their boss? Con-druel-eeza?

Be cool if she got her sorry warmongering ass hauled before Waxman too.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:45 PM
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27. Listen to what the 'state department' man said regarding what
the tactics of BW is when a speeding vehicle approaches...INCLUDING THROWING WATER BOTTLES AT THE VEHICLE??
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:50 PM
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32. yea, she blew Waxman off huh?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:53 PM
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34. what is wrong with Chris Shays
snippy isn't he?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:40 PM
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23. This is just one module of a process of privatising activities historically
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 01:41 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
run by the government, because a privatised administration of it was viewed as patently unsuited for the purpose.

Unfortunately, it seems that the poisoned fountainhead of this process in all its manifestations, is the Pentagon and State Department, the government's interface with the military-industrial complex, effectively, in fulfilment of Eisenhower's warning.
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budibudinski Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:48 PM
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31. AGGGGHHHH..you are so correct. Does it seem to anyone else that
we are the only ones who ever see the crap that's taken place under Bush?

Is everyone in our Government blind to the truth? ( except for Waxman of course)

I just cannot believe our Congress continues to look blindly past the obvious, and carries on like its anything but criminal. When criminal is what this is ALL about.

Man, I just want to scream sometimes!!!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:43 PM
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25.  Seems like only we, the people, want to hold these fascists and criminals accountable
not those that have ignored our messages sent last November and throughout US history, currently being revised by BFEE since our US Constitution was papered over
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:47 PM
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30. everyfuckingthing, including life and death, is now political
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:44 PM
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26. Damn...he described EXACTLY what Prince said..including throwing 'a bottle of water' at the vehicle
It must have been rehersed!!!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:46 PM
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28. i caught that too....they probably held rehearsals together....this sickens me
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:47 PM
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29. better late than never
:hi:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:50 PM
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33. Shays is whoring for them I see
And the guy is not helping him lol!
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:53 PM
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35. WOW...shays kissed Prince's ass and is kicking the State ass
HE WANTS A JOB WITH BLACKWATER...PROBABLY BE VOTED OUT NEXT ELECTION!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:55 PM
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36. Rep Cooper is referencing the "Elvis Shootup" video
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:56 PM
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37. i've seen the footage and it's criminal as hell
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 01:57 PM by spanone
they are shooting up cars at random on the road.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:57 PM
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40. do you have a link on this particular incident spanone?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:58 PM
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43. i'm goin huntin'
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:59 PM
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44. here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMdHKOUm7NM

Search "elvis iraq" on youtube.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:57 PM
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41. yeah, it was posted here a year ago a lot
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:56 PM
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38. what a bunch of sick psychotic bastards.
not reflect our values, geez, stop the fuck lying.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:59 PM
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45. Indeed
but my question is how do these criminals continue to escape with impunity.

One more thing -has a single Rethug condemned these mercenaries?
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:04 PM
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48. I have not heard one rethug condem them.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:12 PM
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59. Thanks
I joined late and they sound like Bush parrots.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:13 PM
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60. until these thugs are challenged what is stopping them they have
gotten away with so much stuff they will keep on pushing until someone/somebody/anybody pushes back.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:57 PM
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39. "no end in sight" ABSOLUTELY not true
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:58 PM
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42. thank you w8lfiting lady.
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Trouser Trout Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:02 PM
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46. Is This Guy Griffin a Waste of Protoplasm or What ? n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:03 PM
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47. here ya go alyce
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 02:06 PM by spanone
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:10 PM
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55. thanks spanone.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:08 PM
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49. they are playing the "we will get back to you" game now
:puke:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:09 PM
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51. will not answer yes or no if there was an investigation
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:09 PM
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53. Waxman, we have a better response from Blackwater than State Dept
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:11 PM
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57. Waxman made me laugh out loud...how do you 'FEEL' about that or do
you have to get back to us about how you 'FEEL'...:rofl:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:08 PM
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50. i'd say the answer is NO..
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 02:09 PM by spanone
congressman asked if there was an investigation of a shooting
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:09 PM
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52. I cannot recall???????? SOB's all of them.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:12 PM
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58. Fire them all. They work for "we the people"...
This is SICK beyond understanding!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:10 PM
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54. Wow, waxman says he's gotten better response from blackwater than state dept
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:14 PM
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62. condi is telling state dept. to shut the f up.
geez, what a mafia group.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:11 PM
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56. OUR government LIES TO CONGRESS period.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:13 PM
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61. Waxman: You have to be responsive to us
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:15 PM
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this is really pathetic....it exposes our government in such bad light.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:15 PM
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63. of course, they (repigs and * loyalists) have made Congress irrelevant.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:16 PM
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64. 6000 attacks per month = get away with anything
:eyes:
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:17 PM
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65. but.. but...but.....but...Petrayus said...it is safer than ever ever ever before in the life of Iraq
that's what he said..or did he betrayus ???
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:18 PM
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66. Who's the jerk talking to Shakowsky
like she's an idiot?? What a jerk!! :grr:

She, if anyone, is up on what's going on in Iraq!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:20 PM
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67. he can fuck off too, what a bunch of arrogant asses.
Satterfield.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:20 PM
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68. $1billion in Federal contracts to Blackwater since 2000
:puke:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:21 PM
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69.  Put these guys in Army uniforms, and ship'em over.
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 02:23 PM by WinkyDink
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tetedur Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:22 PM
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70. Have they mentioned Blackwater in New Orleans after Katrina yet?
I haven't heard any mention yet of domestic jobs that Blackwater does for the government.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:25 PM
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71. "qualified" equals WHO ARE REIGHT WING...see "Emerald City"
the CPA gave jobs to EXTREMELY unqualified people based on their 'loyalty' to the repuglican party..:grr:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:26 PM
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72. you articulated that perfectly
:thumbsup:
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:27 PM
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73. Not only that...WHY WAS IT IMMEDIATE AND EMERGENCY??
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 02:33 PM by angstlessk
they knew the CPA was leaving and the state department would be taking over...WHY THE EMERGENCY?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:27 PM
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74. hey guys can someone be available to start another thread if needed
I am going to sign out soon.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:29 PM
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76. I am not a thread 'starter' I am a thread 'killer' LOL Hope someone who does this
regularly will show up soon!
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:28 PM
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75. Cummings kept on repeating $300 million Blackwater no-bid contract
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:35 PM
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77. oh well no answers there, some more loyalists for *'ie
what a cover up.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:35 PM
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78. No need for new thread...commitee adjourned
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:39 PM
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80. CSPAN3 is repeating it
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:38 PM
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79. That Was Unbelievable
reminded me of Watergate
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:39 PM
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81. essentially the state dept. told mr waxman to fuck off.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:41 PM
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82. He Sure Did - WOW What An ASSHOLE
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 02:43 PM by otohara
these people suck - diplomats my ass!
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:43 PM
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83. Who kept interrupting Waxman at the end
And Waxman kept saying "Your time has expired, I'm just going by the rules".
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:45 PM
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84. I believe it was Issa was trying to get in another question
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:56 PM
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85. Thanks. Figures, I think Waxman was fed up with him
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:29 PM
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87. Issa called the hearing a WITCHunt today
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:48 PM
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88. Thank You and Alyce et All for the coverage today.
I missed most of it, spent the afternoon with my sister. Now watching David fill in for tucker, Jack Jacobs just up!
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