Does anyone here buy or sell Amway stuff? Any interesting stories? n/t

that I don't buy products from any company that makes its associates contribute to a specific politial party (new republic covered amway backin 96 about this)

of a rally, and the speaker sounded like a 700 cluber. His wife got on stage and said "Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, so that he can succeed in this business." The speakers basically said if you're not in amway, you're broke, financially and morally.

Also, Dick DeVos, Richard's boy, tried to run for governor of Michigan. He lost, because he couldn't give a straight answer during the debates with Granholm.

What do you want in life? More leisure time? A nicer home?

Do you like to talk to people? Who doesn't. And it's real easy when you have something to tell them that can make their life better, and save them money too.

Now, would you ever think it possible to get the things your dreaming of having AND help people doing it?

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It's easy. Once you become a distributor, you have your OWN magic triangle! And that's just the beginning, because for every new member THEY sign up, your triangle gets BIGGER. How big? How big can you imagine!?

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So, to start you off, we'll set you up with 100 boxes of our super-duper laundry detergent at only $20 a box. Remember, you only use half as much so it's actually cheaper than the crap you'd buy in the store!

THEN, when you sell each of your boxes for $35 each, you can buy another 100 boxes, but here's the thing - if you manage to sell all of your boxes in under one month, you get to buy the NEXT 100 boxes for only $17.00 each! That's a savings of over $300!

It's like a religious cult. Creepy.

Amway, Republicans & That Old Time Religion
Independent Media TV, December 13, 2004
By Evelyn Pringle ©

Eric Scheibeler's book new, Merchants of Deception,* is a first hand account of the author's recruitment into the Amway cult, his rapid advancement as a recruiter of others, and his final awakening after many years of mind-dulling dedication to the cult ideology. The book evidences Eric's deep personal resolve to try and stop what happened to him from happening to others.

For decades, Amway has used its political clout within the extreme Right Wing of the Republican party to gain access to foreign markets, obtain special tax breaks, and most importantly, to retain immunity from prosecution for pyramid scheme fraud. The giant MLM is able to generates funds all over the globe, simply by using some of those funds to buy protection against regulation and oversight. It has unprecedented influence with the current White House. But worst of all, it has the reach and ability to recruit, manipulate, and misinform millions of new people each year.

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Eric is a good example of this kind of conversion. Before he came into Amway, politics had never been an issue with him, and he was not a deeply religious person. But he soon came to believe that he was dealing with people of great faith and integrity, in part because the tapes he was instructed to listen to.

Unbeknownst to Eric, an educational process had begun that would eventually alter and control nearly all of his values and beliefs. As part of that process, he was instructed to (1) attend choreographed Amway rallies where it delivers its message, often over 2 or three days; (2) read politically charged books; (3) listen to hours of politically slanted audiotapes and voicemail messages; and (4) pay large amounts of money to listen to Right Wing Religious and Republican spokespersons at seminars around the nation.

While attending these seminars, Eric began to learn about the supposed evils of liberalism and the Democratic Party and how the liberals wanted to take from the hardworking, honest people and give to the nonproductive members of society, who were only poor because they were lazy.

Distributors were also pushed to contribute money to the campaigns of conservative Republicans who were brought in to speak. It they were not from their home state, they were urged to help get them elected anyways in order to make the whole country better.

more -

http://www.esatclear.ie/~dialogueireland/a2z/amway/thatoldtimereligion.htm

Did some satellite downlink work for Amway once. It's just another pyramid scheme, with a creepy cult edge to it.

it is truly a delusional scheme

we've written letters to corporate, appealed to states Attorney Generals in Michigan, Alaska, California and Colorado (corporate offices in Michigan, brother has been ripped off in the other three states), and attempted to get consumer help from a host of agencies and private concerns, all to no avail.

My brother is totally disabled from a brain injury. He has control of his faculties enough to live on his own, but ScAmway vultures prey on his desire for greater independence, fill his head full of bilge about "creating his own business," all the while they have their grubby hands deep in his very shallow pockets.

Recently, they've spilled over into internet theft, through a ScAmway called "Quixtar," and convinced my brother to invest even more of his meager allotment in an internet "business" he has neither the knowledge nor the physical wherewithal to possibly run, let alone make a success.

The entire corporate structure, along with the raptors who prey on the hopeful, should be driven into dusty backalley streets and . . .

a neighbor, a young woman, no job, basically desperate, got into Amway. My wife and I were constantly urged to join in the fun. After months, I finally told her that if she absolutely promised to shut up about Amway, I'd go to one meeting. My wife refused, but I took my car, burned my gas, and went to this meeting an hour-and-a-half drive away. The meeting was shocking in that it was so transparent a scam. A never-ending stream of revival meeting style testimonials urged attendees to buy an astonishing array of pamphlets, tapes and so forth.

After a seeming eternity of this drivel, the meeting adjourned. A pair of bruisers waited at each exit, collecting a ten dollar "admission" fee.

I was already irritated by the program, and this dirty trick went right up my nose. I told my "host" that I wasn't paying any damned fee and that the brunos were in real trouble. She pushed ahead and paid my fee. I let it slide. Once I calmed down, I even gave her ten bucks, since the fee would have hurt her financially even worse than it stung me. I had two young kids, and ten buck was a lot of money to me at the time.

Needless to say, the friendship didn't survive.

through the magic of Amway

Because, guess what....the daughter of the owner of Amway married Eric Prince of Blackwater. I had a family member who was really into that, industrial account and in the end her family got royally screwed out of a hefty sum. They had this phone service where they asked for your social security number! I said, No Way are they getting my number.

Getting it out of the way early saves a lot of wear and tear on the both of us.

It never fails to work.

...who married this nutjob salesman. They're still married, more's the pity.

Anyway, they invited me and my family over to their house for Thanksgiving one year, since they lived in a nearby town. It sounded like fun, we had kids in the same age group, and hey, how can you go wrong going to see family on Thanksgiving, right?

Wrong. Part of the event was forcing us to sit through a ridiculous Amway spiel. Now I could have refused, but of course I was trying to keep the peace and all. Also, I noticed that they seemed not to have a single book in the house -- at least none were in evidence in the living room, dining room, den, or master bedroom. Yikes! And on top of that, there were yellow stickies everywhere, on mirrors, refrigerator doors, etc. al with Amway inspirational messages.

Creeped me out big time.

Needless to say, there were no more family holidays at their house.

Ended up in Texas where I met a couple who sold Amway. I joined at 18 and tried for two months. Then I moved back home. Nothing too interesting. Have never been approached in the Northwest.

you will spend huge amounts of money to save money and the only one to get more money is the person that gets you into amway

that was offensive.

If I could ethically scam people into giving me their money so I could teach them how to scam people into giving them their money I'd've had it made.

there are no "interesting" stories but for self protection whenever someone i know gets involved in that cult i have to cut them off

i am low income, if you are a beggar, go beg from the rich, don't hit up your friends and family members to buy overpriced crap, that is stealing

Interesting in some weird psychological way, that is.

Most of the MLM outfits assume that once you've gone beyond a certain level, when you've got a nice big multilevel downline, all you really have time to do is run the downline. Amway requires that, in addition to running five or six hundred people, you Also Sell Amway Crap To People.

near an Amway rep who was badgering a nice couple into joining 'the team'.

It was horrible... and the food sucked too... :puke: