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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:26 AM Original message |
BREAKING: CNN reports that the SCOTUS Blocks El-Masri civil lawsuit against US for alleged Torture |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. No difference between Republicans and Democrats? |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I think there is a difference between purists and practical people |
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opusprime (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Democrats could have stopped this long ago... |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. "Currently, there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans." |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. If the end result is the same. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Things have changed |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. What exactly has changed? |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You just proved my point |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Yes, |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. it's fucking pathetic |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. what's changed? |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. You just admitted that something has changed |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. it's window dressing |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
28. They couldn't have stopped the Iraq war by voting against the IWR. |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Thank you, good points...n/t |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #28 |
40. 2 problems with these points |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. and we probably wouldn't have had a 9/11 either. |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Oh Yes! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. There is, but unless you're a political junkie like us it's getting harder and harder to see it. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. No difference between WAR PARTY Republicans and WAR PARTY "Democrats" -- yes, that's right. |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. Ahem....there were NO DISSENTS |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
2. I guess the constitution is officially over. |
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mahatmakanejeeves (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. You're a little late. |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Yes. What I have suspected is true. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. We still have a Second Amendment. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
32. and they have blackwater. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
4. Declining review is not the same as sanctioning, though it has the same short term effect. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. When discussing such a clearly unconstitutional program, "don't wanna hear it" SANCTIONS it. nm |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
18. No. Don't wanna hear it means exactly that. They don't want to get involved, NOW. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
7. Was it because El-Masri isn't a US citizen ? |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I was wondering the citizen thing too. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
50. could he (Mr. Masri) take this to another court. |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. El-Masri, a German citizen of Lebanese descent, |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Fine...find another way to sue them...in an International forum... |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. citizenship has nothing to do with it...he had standing to sue |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
41. That's what I was getting at. The entire rendition program wasn't 'thought through' |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. Not being a citizen didn't prevent the CIA |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Going off memory from the lower court stuff... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. He should have filed a 'qui tam' motion then in order to expose a waste of taxpayer dollars |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
12. a District Court judge, a unanimous Circuit Court, and a UNANIMOUS SCOTUS |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. SCOTUS just didn't take it. They didn't say the guy had no case. |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. they want Congress to deal with it. Will they? |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. See post 42, file a Whistleblower lawsuit on his behalf LOL ! |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
54. Kinda like they didn't take Sibel Edmonds case November 28th two years ago... |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
19. I think my heart just broke |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
51. If these thugs keep pushing their agenda on us, it will come to that |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
21. So there it is... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
22. Ahem.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Che was right. "It is the nature of imperialism to turn men |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. you'd think we'd learn |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
34. Nice to see that the Dems kept their powder dry |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
35. There were no noted dissents from the denial order in El-Masri v. U.S. (06-1613). |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Anyone got that jpeg of the SCOTUS in clownsuits after the 2000 "selection" of * ? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
44. Those of you who have not, need to read Naomi Wolf's book The End of America |
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