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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:35 AM Original message |
Diet and Fat: A Severe Case of Mistaken Consensus |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. Eat like Italians do, and live forever... NT |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Just look at Sophia Loren. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. I heard her say that she uses olive oil on her skin, too. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
72. Olive oil soap is the best. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. The Italians and the French and Greeks know how to do it. |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 07:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
75. They also eat more meat and saturated fat per capita than we do |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
79. And the Turks, too--who eat like Greeks!! But don't tell THEM that!!! nt |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. Eat smaller portions - like most countries do |
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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Hey, congrats, Beaverhausen! 50 pounds, that's GREAT. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
45. I lost 50 pounds and have kept it off for two years just by |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. I've also lost 45 lbs. in the past year..... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #49 |
95. That's great. When I did that, though, I actually gained weight! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Vegetarianism isn't for everyone |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I can't do it either |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I know several people allergic to soy |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #56 |
91. People were vegetarians before soy products, they |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #55 |
85. Give up HFCS. I have now lost 30 lbs, feel better, have more energy. nt |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #85 |
92. That's my next goal. I've been working on avoiding them |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:25 AM Response to Reply #92 |
124. I thought that it would be more difficult, but it isn't. There are a lot |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. Yep! That's my #1 no-no! |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Even Whole Foods puts sugar in their products |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Trader Joe's too |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #55 |
89. No, it isn't, but you were actually being a vegan, which is for fewer people than |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. Lacto-Ovo Vegetarianism |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
103. Whoo! You rock! |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
119. I dropped 30 lbs in the hospital when I was on TPM intravenous feedings (and the aftermath). |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #119 |
127. Surgery sucks. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #127 |
133. Thanks! |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. I wish the website were still up. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. Least of my worries. I just want to get better and feel better. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 09:03 AM Response to Reply #137 |
142. I wish I could take that. Pain makes healing take much longer. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #142 |
143. Actually, the reversal was the 4th surgery, but it was less invasive |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. *sigh* Stupid needle phobia. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. According to the "Protein Power" people, fat doesn't get converted to fat in the body... |
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tandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Refined sugars and especially high fructose corn syrup are especially bad: |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. A story about HFCS |
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tandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. I also threw away anything with HFCS in it and are checking everything |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. God, this is the truth. |
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deminks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
69. The amazing thing to me was I found it in certain brands of pickles and canned tomatoes. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #39 |
81. I wouldn't call you stupid. I've met and know a load of 'smart' folk who didn't realize |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #39 |
86. From your post to everyone's ear. I have lost 30 lbs, 2 lbs a week. |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
128. It's because the government subsidizes corn. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
60. I have lost weight by giving up refined sugars, especially high fructose corn syrup. |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
84. It can, it just |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
4. Well, the thinking looks really obvious to me |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
5. Time to go conduct my own personal test |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Their 'Sticky Toffee Pudding' flavor is so good |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
122. You have to watch what kind of ice cream you eat. |
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pink-o (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
8. It's actually very simple... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. No, it's not. That only applies if |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
62. I'm sorry but that apllies ALWAYS. There are NO exceptions. |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #62 |
129. Of course, but. |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
65. Your body does not spontaniously generate mass. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
105. It's about metabolism, not thermodynamics. |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:11 AM Response to Reply #105 |
125. Your metabolism is bound by thermodynamics. Don't take in excess energy. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. How do you know? |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #125 |
144. Oddly enough |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
110. Here's an interesting article on thermodynamics and weight loss |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
104. Thank you, DemBones. |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
9. My mother goes for the low fat diet |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
130. That's terrible. It probably makes her feel bad, too. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
10. just eat normal food and take a walk... |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
11. A good amount of olive oil for me |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
87. Watch out. I read where some Italian companies are cutting olive oil |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #87 |
106. Go Greek! |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
12. Harr! Like in the movie "Sleeper" with Woody Allen: |
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bear425 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
14. This report brought to you by Ben and Jerry. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
15. Be active, and don't eat too much |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. This seems to make sense at a gut level |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. actually |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. you're right about that... |
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bluethruandthru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. What's that medication.... |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. topiramate |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. Hah! That's what I was wondering! |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. walking seems to prevent deep vein thrombosis, but beyond that... |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. yes |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
59. that is so screwed up "People want to feel as though they have more control over their health than t |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
90. not for everyone |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. Italians are getting fatter, you know. They drive cars or ride scooters |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Isn't that sad? Read up about the "Okinawa Diet" and you'll see some of the |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #44 |
82. Thanks for the info. Basically, everything started |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 07:57 AM Response to Reply #40 |
140. Have you noticed how little the Romans are? |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
17. really good book |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 07:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
76. I'm almost done Taubes book. It is NOT a diet book |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
21. Eat real food, not artificial junk loaded with preservatives and corn syrup |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. overpopulation |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. Went to the grocery store last weekend. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. All that is true... |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. Supply is fixed, but demand will keep increasing |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
26. Great, another story to screw up Americans' eating habits. |
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MattSh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Well, guess who first came up with that.... |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. ok |
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MattSh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
27. Hmm, sounds like evolution at work... |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. That really does seem like common sense to me. |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
29. Article is about group think -- not about nutrition |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Correllate not cause |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. But good correlative research looks at the "other factors" |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:05 AM Response to Reply #29 |
77. Saturated fat raises HDL and lowers Triclycerides |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #77 |
101. Triglycerides |
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Anwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
109. Actually, saturated fat raises LDL and cholesterol... |
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Anwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #109 |
121. Oops, it does raise HDL too. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #77 |
123. My take on saturated fats is this: for centuries, people in my |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
37. we followed a low fat diet for 20 years, result, my husband has metabolic syndrome |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. what is metabolic syndrome? |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. pre-diabetes or syndrome x are other names for it |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. I'm sorry to hear that. You thought you were |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. I saw soemthing on television |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #47 |
93. Hey - coconut oil is good too! |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
48. Certain fats are really healthy for you... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
51. What about trans saturated fat? |
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Anwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
108. Yep! Avoid trans fat like the plague. |
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Nia Zuri (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. In a few years, you will learn that there is nothing wrong with |
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Anwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Of course nothing is wrong with saturated fats.... |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #108 |
132. You are studying nutrition? |
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Anwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. Gosh... |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
58. I read his chp on tryglycerides and cholestral and looked back at my med records/labs & he is right |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
63. Do your own empirical experiment |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
64. Eat 1500 calories/day of food you like and a multivitamin, you will lose weight (adult male). |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 01:56 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Maybe, maybe not. |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:13 AM Response to Reply #64 |
78. It's not that simple. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
66. Point blank: You can't go wrong if you eat foods found in nature |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 02:22 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. About sodas |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #71 |
88. :( I can live without soda, but I can't do the plain water thing |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
67. I don't listen to any of it. |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
68. Gary Taubes is a good author, and |
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pink-o (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
73. Okay...let's look at this long-term |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Spot on about the food industry! |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
74. Easier to blame people for what they eat than to provide health care |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
83. Fat is not bad for you. |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #83 |
100. Certain fats are good for you, but the best |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #100 |
118. Oh absolutely -- |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
94. We need to listen to our bodies more. |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
102. There's an epidemic of chronic disease in the U.S. |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. Everybody should strive to improve diet and health. |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. Yes |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #112 |
136. Correction |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. I share your exasperation |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 06:38 AM Response to Reply #138 |
139. The Nurses Study (89,000 nurses over 20+ years) |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #102 |
115. Sometimes it is |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. I stand corrected |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
111. Autoimmune diseases are increasing. |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. I have basically stopped responding to posts like that anymore. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #113 |
146. I feel the same way. |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Sadly, you are right |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #114 |
147. Migraines are awful. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
131. Bacon and eggs for breakfast, with a side of smoked salmon |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
141. ttt nt |
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