Here is what Brownback actually said - Democratic Underground

mudesi

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Tue Oct-09-07 07:07 PM
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Here is what Brownback actually said

"...In our inner cities, you're looking at 65-70 percent of the children born out of wedlock..." means:

Black people are a bunch of deadbeats with no morals.

And here's what people who respond with "It's a fact" are really saying: I don't care.

Tell me I'm off base on this. Because when talking about so called "moral values" (as if having children out of wedlock is so repugnant - No Republican would ever commit such a sin! :eyes:), the Republicans just can't help but ignore (and propagate) the social and economic conditions (also known as institutional racism and poverty) that lead to such "facts".

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gulfbreeze

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Tue Oct-09-07 07:09 PM
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1. Can anyone tell me what channel is carrying the debates?

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tnlurker

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Tue Oct-09-07 07:17 PM
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5. MSNBC 8PM Central time

It is a replay from earlier today on CNBC

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Rhythm and Blue

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Tue Oct-09-07 07:09 PM
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2. That interpretation is bigoted,

as is making it. However, saying "In our inner cities, you're looking at 65-70 percent of the children born out of wedlock" is not in and of itself bigoted. That is a statement of fact, and applying morality to facts is something they do, not something we do.

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Riktor

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Tue Oct-09-07 07:12 PM
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3. It's all part of the war on welfare

The Republicans have been trying to destroy welfare by characterizing welfare recipients as black, hypersexual, baby-machines who churn out children for free money. It is ludicrous, but plenty of suburban whites buy into this shit.

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renie408

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Tue Oct-09-07 07:15 PM
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4. You are off base on this.

Not about your characterization of Brownback or his interpretation of those facts. But your interpretation of the DU members answers. I was reading people saying EXACTLY that the social and economic conditions which lead to those 'facts' were what needed changing.

BTW...I was one of the two people who said "other". I am not sure it is an actual fact and I don't understand what the point was. But that doesn't mean that I think that anybody that thought it was 'just a fact' is a Brownback apologist.

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seriousstan

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Tue Oct-09-07 07:31 PM
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6. I think the main point is that single-parent families are much more likely to be in poverty.

Ninety percent of single-parent families are headed by females. Not surprisingly, single mothers with dependent children have the highest rate of poverty across all demographic groups (Olson & Banyard, 1993). Approximately 60 percent of U.S. children living in mother-only families are impoverished, compared with only 11 percent of two-parent families. The rate of poverty is even higher in African-American single-parent families, in which two out of every three children are poor.

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renie408

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Tue Oct-09-07 07:33 PM
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7. Exactly. It is a problem which needs to be addressed, not ignored because it was

Brownback that mentioned it.

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madrchsod

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Tue Oct-09-07 08:18 PM
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8. no it`s people of color

there`s black, brown, yellow, and white in the big cities that have problems with children raised by one parent...it`s really class warfare he`s talking about...oh yes it`s out here in the suburbs and the farm fields too

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Tierra_y_Libertad

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Tue Oct-09-07 08:24 PM
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9. "There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain

Brownback's use of "facts" are thinly veiled demagoguery.

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