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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:07 PM
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Orlando police department turns to prayer to help solve crime
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-prayer09_107oct09,0,3423032.story?coll=orl_tab01_layout

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Starting Wednesday evening and continuing for 40 nights, {Orlando police Chaplain Andrew}Wade and his fellow chaplains will join volunteers standing in Parramore Heritage Park, in the heart of one of Orlando's most troubled areas, and pray for the end of crime.

Wade said this is not just a feel-good, symbolic gesture.

"There is a fight in the supernatural that is affecting us here in the physical world," he said.

"This is a clarion call to people of faith. Let us join together. Let's ask God to change the hearts and minds of men."
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This is what it's come to. IMHO, this is the equivalent of a city endorsed rain dance - although I think I've read reports of local governments doing that also. So what happens when Orlando's crime rate continues at its current pace? Can I sue God for not answering prayer to keep me safe from crime?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:08 PM
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1. Ahh prayer - one step below "wishing it were so"
"Nothing fails like prayer" :evilgrin:
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:22 PM
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6. Carl Sagan said that all prayers are the equivalent of
"Great God, Grant that twice two be not four."

I miss Carl.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:27 PM
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9. OOooooh I love that!
I like Dawkins, but Sagan had the wit, charm and wording to put it perfectly.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:08 PM
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2. yeah, good luck with that...only marginally better than police brutality
:eyes:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:09 PM
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3. So that wuld mean that at the same time, ALL those houses are unoccupied
hmmmm.. what COULD go wrong here:eyes:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:10 PM
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4. Well this is cheaper than getting a working budget
how much do you folks want to bet that they are underfunded?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:29 PM
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10. Maybe Jeff Gannon is organizing their prayer meetings and getting a big kickback? n/t
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:14 PM
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5. While you're at it, pray for some amputees to be cured!
Now THAT would prove something!
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:24 PM
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7. Maybe we could just have Prayer Day at the United Nations
Then we could solve all the world's problems - war, hunger, poverty, etc.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:26 PM
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8. how far off are the sacrifices?
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:59 PM
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17. My concern would be, who are they going to sacrifice.
:scared:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:43 PM
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11. Poop in one hand and wish in the other, see which fills up first. nt
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:28 PM
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12. Eh, I'm not going to castigate them for it.
To me it looks like really desperate people reaching for anything they can to stop the madness. In circumstances like that, I can see how people raised with faith would find that a comfort.

Truly stopping the spiral of violence? Decriminalize drugs. That would do more to stop mothers from crying in front of their son's coffins than anything other act, including building prisons or putting more cops on the street. Too bad like certain other effective actions, it's 'off the table'.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:34 PM
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13. State sanctioned religious activities, however?
It's one thing if a group of churches got together to do this. But for the Orlando Police Department to be organizing this just smacks of church & state crap.
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:39 PM
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14. If I lived in Orlando, this would be my "oh, shit!" moment.
What Orlando (or any city) needs are professional crime-fighters. What they have is apparently a collection of witch-doctors and faith-healers.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:41 PM
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15. So how do we know the criminals aren't already praying not to be caught?
Bet they haven't thought of that, eh? Eh?

:eyes:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:57 PM
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16. Way good point!
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:39 PM
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18. Good luck with that.
New Orleanians have been praying for an awfully loooooong time.
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