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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:18 PM
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Whoopi Goldberg: Sharpton should apologize to Duke lacrosse players
(VIDEO) http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dd0_1192025762&p=1

The Duke players can get in line behind Steven Pagones, who has been waiting 20 years for an apology.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:25 PM
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1. Whoopi Goldberg ...
Is, IMO, a celebrity meatball. :thumbsdown:

Why should anybody care what Whoopi thinks?!?
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:48 PM
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6. Shes right on this
Sometimes Al Sharpton needs to keep his mouth shut until all the facts come out. Accusing people of rape without proof is beyond stupid, and sometimes he can remind me of Nancy Grace.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:05 PM
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18. You think you have the facts?
Bullshit! You know nothing! I guess you think the rapist were just a bunch of fine young white boys... victims of an evil black whore and the liberal media.
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:28 PM
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22. What....
i dont have the facts and neither does al sharpton. The difference is, I dont go around accusing people of rape without facts. What was this post all about?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:58 PM
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25. self-dele
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 11:00 PM by defendandprotect
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:03 PM
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27. Do you have the facts?
or are you reacting emotionally.
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qdemn7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:26 PM
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21. Why should anyone care what Rosie O'Donnell thinks?
Or for that matter, ANY celebrity "meatball"?
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:34 PM
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2. What did he say about them?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:50 PM
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8. Here's the transcript
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:52 PM
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10. LOL, that's it?
"I think that there are certainly a lot of racial factors. Whether it is directly in the case, we'll see, because some reports said that there was racial language used. But I think that when you look at the racial atmosphere, when you look at the fact that there again were the allegations of racial statements, when you look at a lot of people feeling that they have been treated differently, where this girl has basically had a character charged in the media, there is a lot of racism that's in the air. Having said that, I commend a lot of the blacks and whites who stood vigil and to come together in that community to stand up for this girl. So I think in the midst of this, there is some good."
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:40 PM
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13. no, you forgot about this:
"But I think that all of the facts that you have laid out the DA had — and I know this DA is probably not one that is crazy. He would not have proceeded if he did not feel that he could convict. So it tells me that all of what you said is either not true or he has convincing evidence that would certainly knock that out and no one is not letting him proceed."

Maybe Sharpton could acknowledge that he was wrong about Nifong....
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:42 PM
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14. Sure.
He owes Nifong an apology.

:eyes:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:54 PM
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15. and you need some rest apparently
because you've stopped making sense
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:02 PM
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17. I'm not making sense?
I'm not the one going after Sharpton over those Duke boys.

That's as dumb as that thread blaming him for Bill O'Reilly's racist comments about black restaurants.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:06 PM
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19. It's a losing case
They hold him to a higher standard but give him the least amount of respect.

He said nothing worse than what the general public was saying at the time. People in the media have tried to criticize about what he said and when will he apologize. He's said publically that he was wrong about the case but this is never reported.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:18 PM
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20. I didn't realize he had said publicly he was wrong. Do you have a link?
And yes Sharpton is held to high standard. He rightly is critical of the authorities in some cases, but suddenly becomes a defender of the authorities in others. A little consistency would go a long way.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:30 PM
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23. I think he's been pretty consistent, many of the things he does gets no publicity
I don't have a link. If you have access to Nexis-Lexis you could probably pull up some of his appearances.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:42 PM
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24. I've searched but can't find any indication that Sharpton has acknowledged he was wrong
about Nifong
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 06:56 AM
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38. This is frustrating
Sometimes people feel if they can't find a link it didn't happen. I watched him say it on Fox and I heard it on his radio program. Lexis-Nexis is a great tool. This is a portion of the transcript from Fox:

<snip>
WALLACE: And, Reverend Sharpton, even after the case has been completely disproved, even after the attorney general in North Carolina has said that it was an overreaching, overzealous prosecutor, you're still not willing to say...

SHARPTON: Oh, absolutely, but...

WALLACE: ... "I, Reverend Sharpton, was wrong, I owe an apology to those students?" SHARPTON: ... you didn't ask that question. You did not ask that question.

WALLACE: Well, I'm asking it to you now, sir.

SHARPTON: I wish you would, rather than assume my answer. Not only would I said today I think clearly the prosecutor misled us, and that what happened to those young men were horrible, I said it on my show Friday. It said it immediately after it happened.

So to act as though I have not said that is not true. You should have asked that. I've said that as soon as it came down. I said it on my radio program Friday.

But again, you didn't ask that. You assumed an answer and put it in my mouth and then asked me to apologize for it.

<snip>

http://www.lexisnexis.com/us/lnacademic/results/docview/docview.do?risb=21_T2237762304&format=GNBFI&sort=RELEVANCE&startDocNo=1&resultsUrlKey=29_T2237762309&cisb=22_T2237762308&treeMax=true&treeWidth=0&selRCNodeID=15&nodeStateId=411en_US,1,4&docsInCategory=42&csi=174179&docNo=23
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:35 PM
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3. Sure.
In the same way Jay Leno owes O.J. Simpson an apology.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:47 PM
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5. Exactly, because there is no difference
Between someone who styles himself as a leader of a dignified movement and and late-night comedian.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:52 PM
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9. Do you really think that's a good argument?
Or are you just upset because you think OJ did it too?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:03 PM
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11. I do think its a correct argument.
And you're more than welcome to prove it wrong.

But I stopped caring about OJ ten years ago.
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:46 PM
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4. She's right. When you falsely imply that someone is guilty
and you find out you are wrong - you apologize.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:48 PM
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7. Will the media apologize? n/t
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:28 PM
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12. It doesn't matter
if he apologizes or not. Those who hate him will still hate him. What would be the point?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:01 PM
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16. I love Whoopi.
Good to hear say this
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:00 PM
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26. Whoopi isn't right 100% of the time . . . remember her advice to go "blackface" . . ..
when she was involved with Cheers "bartender" . . .

What is unlikely is that two black women did themselves great harm -- one enacting a kidnapping and smearing feces all over her body; writing KKK, etal -- and the other facing racial taunts called at her from the "house" . . . and showing signs of having been sexually assaulted.

AND -- let's remind ourselves again --- DNA is not required to pursue a rape claim . . .
all that is required is penetration for it to be rape.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:04 PM
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28. What on earth are you talking about?
If you're referencing the Tawana Brawley thing, what are you trying to say. You seem confused
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:20 AM
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37. I'm confused . .. . ???? Evidently you are unaware of the "black face" event -- ????
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Fading Captain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:05 PM
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29. All Apologies
This nation is filled with people demanding apologies of other people.

And it's not only true of Republicans.

Dems are just as guilty of it.

Stop it.

If someone wants to apologize, we don't need to know about it, do we?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:06 PM
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30. It would be so nice if we just assigned actors numbers instead of their names being known
just makes them think people care what they think.

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:10 PM
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31. For sharpton apologists I have two words: Stephen Pagones.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:13 PM
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32. yep. It's not cool to say so here , but I haven't trusted him
since then, and boy was Pagones ever owed an apology from Sharpton. He got money in a civil suit, but no apology. Doesn't say much for Sharpton imo.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:18 PM
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33. sharpton is an opportunist and a liar. pagones should've been the end of sharpton's credibility.
he couldn't find it in himself to apologize to someone whose life he NEARLY RUINED. man, he's more like bush than he'd like to admit.
he reeks of hypocrisy.
i can't stand the man.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:22 PM
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34. This was a New York thing.
So I don't know much about it. Why hasn't Sharpton apologized to this guy? Or maybe he has, privately.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:23 PM
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35. Probably because Sharpton feels no remorse for his actions.
:shrug:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:27 PM
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36. Yup
I'm in NY and I can tell you hell will freeze over before Sharpton ever admits he was wrong.

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