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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 09:49 PM Original message |
I Officially Give Up On The Democrats !!! |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. While I don't agree with giving up on them officialy, I wholeheartedly agree with your premise. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. He doesn't actually say to give up. He says "challenge them from the left!" |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Which I agree needs to happen in a much louder voice since its pretty obvious the left is being |
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Morereason (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. Send the worst offenders copies of this article! |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, challenge them from the left... Or the right. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Only to people who are perpetually muddled n/t |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Liberalism and conservatism both stand for Constitutional law and order. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Lol! n/t |
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TimBean (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 03:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
88. The right is the problem |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. We need to start picking off the Dem. traitors in safe seats. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. San Francisco is pretty safe. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Oh yeah, I forgot |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 03:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
89. If By "Neo-con" You Mean "Royalist", She's Inching Pretty Close |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. So you're happy to run the risk of electing Republicans then? |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I think you're missing the "safe" part. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. What about the "Democratic traitors" bit? |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
75. If they are siding with Bush on important issues and not fighting for the people |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. This writer sounds like a troll |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. This writer is a great thinker. One of the best. Cenk aint no troll honey. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Really? and did he support the Iraq war? |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Cenk Uygur was until very recently a pro-Iraq War Republican |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Passionate declarations like this |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. That's Uygur's mission |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. yep. and as people on this thread are demonstrating |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
76. He's Wonderfully Effective... Watch This: |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #27 |
55. Cenk has been a left-wing writer for years. He was once a republican, before Bush took office. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
81. And, he himself says he supported the war...Now, not so much. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. link please. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
51. NO he never did. You msut have your Cenk's confused. Althought there's only one I know of |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
32. You know, having stated that he's some great thinker |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. For me, I don't understand how anyone could not see how wrong Iraq was from the beginning |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
65. Why are you people saying he supported the war. He did not. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
50. You're crazy. theyoungturks.com he actually started one of the anti-war movements. the enough campai |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Who's crazy? Only now is he speaking up, after cheerleading the attack on Iraq. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. He never never was for the Iraq war. Who are you talking about? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. He has been speaking up for years. Nothing new. he started the first leftwing talk show on the radio |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:57 PM Response to Reply #64 |
78. Interesting, since he's the first to say it. He openly states he supported the war. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. show me. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. He is a self admitted rah rah supporter of the Iraq War, now disillusioned. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. ? I honestly was not aware of that |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. He was the pseudo conservative voice of Young Turks a few years ago. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Its hard for me to understand how anyone could not have seen the truth of what they were doing... |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I know. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
66. because it is not true. He was a raised republican. But he never supported the war, turned democrat |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. No, don't agree, needs to be said, the further we go down the rabbit hole the more |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
7. My senator voted for cloture on Alito, but voted against confirming him |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
9. Hell yes! Furthermore, it seems to me that if we want the Dems to quit caving, |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
16. Getting tired of this stuff |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. What;s really interesting is that until recently he was a repuke |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I know, he's NOT on our side, I don't trust him |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #36 |
56. He's been a leading speaker on the left for many years. and extremely knowledgeable. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
79. Just curious. Are you MRS Cenk? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. I wouldn't mind. But no, I'm just a young turks fan. been listening for years. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
77. Jesus Cali... Do A Little Homework First... |
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Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
19. I Sent My Democratic Senator a "Pink Slip" |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Who.. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. I'm sure her R opponents will be happy to have your vote. |
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Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. In Answer To You Both |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 07:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
48. You proudly declaring that you've voted Republican is no surprise to me. Bragging about it here, |
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Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
67. I Don't Group-Think |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. Well, you just come onto DU and tell us how great those Republicans are, you go girl! |
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Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
85. I Hadn't Planned On It |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Cool! |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
61. I hope you get stuck with Michael Steele.. |
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Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-12-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #61 |
87. God Forbid |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
25. I realized today that there MUST BE a CENTRIST PARTY |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Well, the Progressive Caucus could all switch to the Green Party. |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
54. It would. |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
74. The pukes would fund just such a move. |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
52. Maybe the DLC can start one. |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. We have to hold their feet to the fire even though we may be called a "plant" ala Hillary. |
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Solar_Power (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
41. If Ds in congress had balls, we'd be out of Iraq by now |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
43. Give up on the Dems??? What. you asshole, vote RED? Watch your words, you help the PUBs with crap |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. He ALREADY IS a Republican, Uygur that is n/t |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. what is your problem? It simply aint so. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
45. "you will never be challenged from the left, so always give into the right" |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
46. "Challenging from the left" is NOT giving up! |
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Laurier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
47. Giving up is not an option. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
49. It is the "pros" that worry me |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
53. ibtl |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
58. Jesus H. Christ. If I hear one more ignorant "spineless" comment.... |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. shhhhh, enough with all that reason and logic |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. Oh please! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
62. The giant, gaping hole in this "logic" |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
68. I understand your frustration |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. And please have a little understanding for our discouraged bretheren |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Self -delete -- accidental duplicate nt |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
71. i ain't ready to get 'official' about it, but they got me leanin' in that direction |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-11-07 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
72. they are gutless and grotesquely ineffective |
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