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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:45 AM
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Gore needs to keep doing what he is doing - running in our country for pres would be a mistake
He is getting the honors, recognition, and helping the world.

If the replicks can take an opionion poll on cnn and make it almost 50/50 on his winning the noble prize - they can still run a smear machine against anyone - Al Gore - I like you too much to wish those sicko people on you. We need a whole country who is willing to change and one man is not it. IF we are willing to have the candidates we have and not improve and have the congress critters we have and not improve why would we ask this man to sacrifice his good deeds for such a very sick country. The candidates are not against the war or for health care or for climate - Dennis is the only one and he can't get in the media -

The media even putting a poll on CNN about whether he deserved the prize is so ignorant
When the networks did that show on the greatest america ever and had people vote - truly great people were not voted instead - the replicks went for Reagan - that is so sick - this country has a terminal disease at this time and it needs a lot more than Al to fix it

We need people to get us on track at all levels of government - Dean is at least trying to put good 'cells' back into the body of this country. The current crop of politicians are not a very good lot for the common folks.

So leave Al alone and let him help the world who does appreciate him and where he can do the greater good.



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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:46 AM
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1. How can he do the greater good
if the US is currently the worst polluter and nobody planning on stopping it? Now, thinking outside the box, IF he were President, don't you think he could change THAT?
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:56 AM
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9. pressure to bear is what will change it - getting the rest of the world
against our excesses and our corporations is what will do it - the smear machine will not let the votes get through to change corporate interests.


The world can force change just as they finally did with Hitler

Building consensus for the greater good will have a much bigger and longer effect than one man for 8 years who will be smeared from now until the end of his terms - they will not allow the votes to be for the good of the population - read the blogs and other comments being posted just because he did WIN the nobel peace prize - these people are not willing to listen to logic and reason
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:47 AM
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2. Gore has laid the ground work on Climate Crisis. His visionary leadership is needed to restore
goodwill around the world as the President of the United States.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:48 AM
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3. Exactly ...
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:53 AM
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8. Rude Pundit does it again! Thanks for the link
"The great failure of the United States to lead on this issue, to be the place where we create solutions that benefit the globe, keep economies humming, and raise humanity up in a way that might, truly, do more for peace than all the pre-emptive wars ever, rests squarely on the shoulders of George W. Bush and his administration.

It's the difference between a man who traveled and studied the world by choice in his life and a man who has to be dragged to different countries like a particularly incontinent dog is dragged out to the sidewalk on a snowy day.

Gore's not gonna run. Give that up. To go from speaking out about melting icecaps to being asked what he thinks about, say, a flag-burning amendment would be a degradation of what he's worked for the last six years. And had that statewide recount in Florida happened and Gore had become president, Republicans would have simply worked night and day trying to destroy him, and his causes would have been washed away in a tide of worthless investigations of Buddhist monk phone calls and worse. And let's not even get into how Republicans would have exploded in berserk, ape-like rage over 9/11 if it had happened under a Gore presidency.

It's not that we're not worthy or that he's too good for us or any of that hyperbolic nonsense. We got the president we deserved, twice, and we realized too late that we didn't get the president we needed. As with so many things, our own temptation to that latent American selfishness has done us in."

Gore would be LESS effective in the White House. He is smart enough to know that.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:01 AM
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10. Gore would be LESS effective in the White House. He is smart enough to know that. - exactly
Gore would be LESS effective in the White House. He is smart enough to know that. Exactly what I am trying to say

I read his book Earth in Balance back in 1992 and thought - then - this is a very smart man about our earth - he has had the opportunity to do more for the world by everyone seeing what great ideas he has and helping to promote him -

This country is blinded by media, and republik smear machines -

I like seeing the good works he is doing and being able to do outside the realm of our sick political system and the people who support such BS at all levels -

I believe he can do more good from outside the crap.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:49 AM
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4. Being president would allow him to have a hand in national and global policy making.
There is NO WAY that being president is a bad thing - not for him, nor for us.

When Gore win, we will all win. Even those who don't want to.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:50 AM
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5. President Gore is very capable of multi-tasking and delegating..
As president, he would have much more authority to initiate real changes.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:05 AM
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11. Well said!
I don't know why people think we would swallow that Kool-Aid! As president, he would have so much more influence! It astounds me that people are holding this ridiculous stance!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:51 AM
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6. blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah


This tune is getting tiresome.

I've never seen so much Kool-Aid swilling at DU before! What the hell is going on??
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:51 AM
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7. People see it differently... some agree with you
that he can do more good outside the WH. Some think he could do more from within.

I'm in the second group.

Either way, he can only choose one course of action, so we'll really never know if he could have done more from whatever position he doesn't take.

So... merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:06 AM
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12. "The candidates are not against the war
or for health care." Edwards has said numerous times that he will end combat operations in Iraq and he and Obama have both taken Clinton to task over her vote on the Lieberman resolution. And I think pretty much all of the candidates are for some form of health coverage, some having much better and well thought out plans than others, of course. The environment, while it is a very important issue, is just not as important with voters as the war and health care and the economy. Al Gore would make a fine President, but we have others running that would make make fine ones as well.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:07 AM
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13. if they fund the war - they are voting for it n/t
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:57 AM
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19. Gore voted for the first Gulf War.
Saddam Hussein basically asked permission of the Bush I administration before he attacked Kuwait. Their answer to Hussein was that they didn't get involved in Arab/Arab conflicts. Then they turned around and attacked Iraq. None of our candidates is squeaky clean, some are just more agreeable than others. If someone here wants to wait around until the Iowa caucuses or whenever to see if Gore jumps in, that's their prerogative, but I really don't think he's our savior. Kucinich, Edwards, Biden, and a couple of others are decent men and deserve a chance to be heard.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:08 AM
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14. Running for office and sitting in office places restrictions on a person
And it attaches politics to anything he has to say rendering any impact tangled in that mess. Look at how the right is reacting to the simple fact that he won the prize. If he was running for office they would immediately attach the motivation to political machinations and take the focus off the real issue which is saving the freaking planet.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:14 AM
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16. exactly my point - they don't care about facts - they are against
anything that has to do with good, wholesome, or for the greater good
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:52 AM
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18. Yep. REAL leaders can lead from anywhere
Look at what Carter has done since LEAVING the White House!

Leaders lead, they don't just occupy an office. They can lead from just about anyplace they can rise to be heard. Really good leaders will create their own podium and not be limited by others.

Opportunists seek positions that can afford them power for self enrichment. They will lie to get position but not lead from it.

Then, there is the power behind the coups. Gore, in the White House would be hobbled by the powers which arranged the coup of 2000 and even that of 63. Why would a bright, caring man allow those evil shadow power brokers hobble him? There are people who just don't want America to do the right thing, generation after generation, evidently. Those people would not allow a President Gore to do nearly as much as Citizen Gore can get done.

We The People are the ones who must change the playing field. Until we throw off the blinders that keep us (as a society) under the power of a few self serving families, we get the government we deserve, not the government we need. Gore can't do our work for us. It's not reasonable to expect he would want to.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:34 PM
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20. exactly - well said - the people have to all wake up and start doing
the right thing for the country - he is doing the right thing for him and therefore for the world - and he is a leader in many many ways and it shows with the following he has around the world - his following is looking much bigger than Bill clinton and much more powerful
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:12 PM
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21. Bigger than Bill, FOR SURE. More honest and caring too.
Too bad, in America, all is image and marketing. Too bad people don't appreciate SUBSTANCE.

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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:12 AM
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15. see these 33,xxxx people who voted against him getting the noble
prize - this is how sick this country is -
http://www.cnn.com/

working outside the terminal sickness in this country and using leverage is in our and the world best interest -

* has made such a mess and if gore took it over it would add to their blaming it on clinton
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:23 AM
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17. another poll and opinions of the 'brain dead republicks' and the
reasons I want Al to continue to work for the World as a WORLD LEADER than work for the idiots who voted * in twice

http://forums.wsj.com/viewtopic.php?t=903
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:27 PM
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22. I agree with the OP. I hope Gore does not run for Pres.
The System is corrupt. He can do more good outside of it.
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