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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:16 PM
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Taxes= Bad, Credit Card Economy = Good. The mantra of the idiot right.
Typical Republican candidate:

"Gee folks, we will never raise taxes on you - taxes are bad because they pay for horrible social programs that liberals want to put into place like health care. However, we want to spend trillions on illegal wars fought on false pretenses and spend all kinds of money making sure that your jobs are outsourced overseas making your executives extremely rich. Then when this catches up to us, we will make sure a Democrat is in office so that they have to raise taxes and take the blame for all the debt we created. Oh, and you'll be one paying for it along with your children and grandchildren. Vote for us because we love Jesus and hate brown people!"


It really comes down to taxes for a lot of people when they go to the polls. Sadly enough, we as Democrats have done little to dispel the myth that we are the "taxation" party that will implement pork barrel programs that will only serve the poorest in our society. What we need to be shouting is that we are the party for all - and honestly mean it by cutting wasteful government spending and implementing real positive social programs for all in our society, not just the very poorest. When will a candidate actually start proposing common-sense change to the spending in this country and a plan to implement programs that will actually benefit our nation? We spend trillions in Iraq and propping up corporate interests here at home - why not start there and show in actual numbers how much we can save by eliminating the largest portion of these expenses and what programs we can implement in their place? That would actually resonate with voters that are honestly being squeezed by our unfair tax system and the rampant government spending that will inevitably catch up with all of us, even our children? I'm an employed professional who makes a nice salary and even I am being squeezed from month to month due to the state of our economy, health care, and rising prices in key sectors. If it is hurting me, then it most certainly is significantly impacting those who are not as fortunate!

It's a winning issue - I would just love to see a candidate who actually understands this concept and not merely play lip service to it.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:18 PM
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1. It was hilarious when right wing economic advisers went to China
They kept trying to explain to these people who had massive savings why it was such a good idea to go into debt instead of saving their money. The people they talked to kept looking at them like they were idiots.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:35 PM
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2. It's about the only thing that we are attempting to export
Export those good ole' Neoconservative economic values. Why not? Let's bring everyone else down on our sinking ship.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:40 PM
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3. . . .that, besides movies, TV, tits and ass. . .
"American Ass - Our Biggest Product"

:evilfrown:
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TimBean Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:15 PM
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4. What people don't understand is that taxes are good
Sure it sucks to pay them, but collectively the government can put them to good use. How else are parks and schools and roads supposed to be paid for. The more tax we all give up, the more our country can be developed.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:20 PM
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5. Agreed to an extent
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 02:24 PM by TornadoTN
However, I certainly don't trust the spending policies of Republicans and a lot of the pork-barrel B.S. that we end up paying for. Common sense tax reform doesn't mean that we do away with taxes from my perspective, I believe we can increase efficiency, eliminate waste, and increase expenditures in much needed social and infrastructure programs just by taking a long look at our collective balance sheet.

Maybe I'm being a bit naive, but my business side and the business/marketing education that I have has taught me to look out for the greater good of the company as a whole. It's pretty easy to do once you look at all of the inputs/outputs and make adjustments accordingly. It's just something that our government refuses to do!
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