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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:56 PM
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There are 300 some million of us and just a handful of war mongering dilletantes destroying us...
How is that possible?...A bunch of jerks in the white house and we continue to defer to them as if there is a sincgel shred of decency among them...I'm upset today...cant figure out how a handful can be manipulating so many...its not like we dont know the facts or congress doesnt know the facts..but this nonsense continues...this is not what the founders had in mind...I read great articles and commentaries and nothing changes...it just stays the same with the idiot in chief in control of our lives...everywhere I go, people are saying the same thing...we wake up pissed off...I cant go anywhere without running into strangers who are upset about the same things that im upset about...a couple hundred million of us...and nothing is changing...how is this possible?
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:00 PM
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1. Sad but true. K+R
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:03 PM
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2. watch this 4 min film. She has an interesting theory on how they do it...
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:14 PM
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4. thank you...i will send this to everyone...this is how it was done after 911
we KNOW that..but most people have awakened..not all but i think most...now what?...im going to buy her book ...i keep hearing that it is very insightful...does she also offer solutions?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:18 PM
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6. I just heard about it today and googled and saw the video. haven't bought the book
yet. But she says in the movie: the ebst way to counter shock is to be aware and understand what is happening around you. That makes sense to me. Those in power have been planning all of this for many many years. It is somehwta new to the rest of us.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:38 PM
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21. Wow! Shock Doctrine is #21 on the NYT Bestseller List -
Not quite like debuting in the Top 10 -- but good for a hard-hitting lefty book -- given that we don't have people buy certain books by the thousands to hand out on the street like Ann Coulter does...
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:08 PM
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3. I have an easy answer for you...
Because 70% of are still playing by yesterday's rules...the rules we were taught as kids and are still trying to apply in our existing world.

You know try to reason with your opponent.
Try to play by established rules.
Try to be cordial and considerate
Don't go after peoples families
Don't attack children

You know the Golden Rules!!

The 30%...Rove, *, Condi, Rummy, Cheney, Blow-hole-Limpballs, O'Leilly, Malkite, Man-Coulter, and the list goes on to include Christian Fundamentalist Wacko's.....

Their motto-Lie, Intimidate, Threaten, Cheat, Steal, Smear, Hate-Monger, Destroy Careers, you can add to the list....They will make a deal with the devil to gain power and to stay in power. The live it, they breath it and they will eventually destroy themselves with it.

My answer...We have 1 year 1/2 to stop being the skinny guys on the beach getting sand kicked in his face..buy the big bafoon NeoCon..ONLY when we use their own methods against them will they shut the Fuck up and step the Fuck down....

Make no mistake...they are planning something..they always are....The Question is are we going to be ready when whatever it is happens. They will call people like you and me nutcases wanting something bad to happen...No I call us realist because they have made us realize that it's not the so called terrorist that they are screaming about that are the biggest threat-It's the Facist, Racist, Neo-con Terrorist (that's right I said it) that are the biggest threat to our American Way of Life.

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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:17 PM
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5. absolutely on target...and they pushed us to this reality...im sick of it...nt
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:21 PM
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8. I think a lot of Americans are sick of it...
they just haven't reached that point yet...

Congress must wake up and understand that the country is in trouble with * and his cabal still holding on to the leadership....Americans want change...they want these guys gone and they want religion out of Politics...
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:20 PM
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7. when you're right you're right.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:28 PM
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10. It's the election. They must have a plan to steal it because
they know they can't win it, especially with the crew of idiots that are running. It's like they're not even trying. :shrug:
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:48 PM
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14. does it really matter who steals it?
I'm beginning to wonder.
The voices of the somewhat empowered democrats ain't all that different from the years of hellBush.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:03 PM
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16. I've been 39 for many years now and I've never seen anything like this
level of corruption in our government. I may not agree with the DLC candidates but they're still much better than BushCO.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:13 PM
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17. I'm beginning to see less difference.
Billy and Senior B so cozy son/father. Hillary and that Murdoch pustule, so smiley together.
yes, bush is so much more despised only because he is obviously the perfect target to hoist all ills on because he is such a despicable Dolt. but that Dolt Thing could not have happened without complicity. That Thing should not have been allowed to go the extra miles toward the abyss for us all. It's a game, and we are all losing.
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Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:23 PM
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19. You nailed it !
Thank you so much for breaking it down!
It's so true, what was taught about civics and the constitution has been totally upended and trashed by the Bush/Cheney cabal and the MSM.
America is in a sad state of affairs and I hope like other times in our history, we can stem the tide.
:grr:
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:25 PM
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9. We should repeat this fact, over and over and over,...let's. eom
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:30 PM
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11. Normally, things don't get off kilter this badly.
I think the way our government structures are set up is pretty effective most of the time, in most ways. Where it broke down was in the "election" of 2000. I think that led to a series of malfunctions and malfeasance in the way things are supposed to work and balance out that we've never quite recovered from. The people who sued their way into the White House that year undermined and subverted key foundations of government, screwing up the works...
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:47 PM
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13. relates to the Klein video as well..since that also SHOCKED us...well, many of us
such a blatant disgusting manipulation of the supreme court.. ...the secondary shock during that event..was the number of sheep who didnt even understand the consequences of what they were doing to all that we hold sacred as a nation..voting, democracy and justice...yep...BYE Bye Miss Anerican Pie...right on national tv...with a lot of people supporting the bad guys...good decent koolaid drinking all americans......stealing the 2000 election with the aid of the supreme court shocked the shit out of many of us...invading Iraq...and then stealing a second election under our noses again...yep...shock is the game....i remember after the 2004 election...i was leveled...absofuckinglutely leveled...physically emotionally intuitively exhausted with disbelief...
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:00 PM
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15. I know the feeling.
I really do.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:33 PM
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20. Absolutely spot on!
K and R

We have been terrorized by the neo-cons. With all the anti-terror laws you would think the sheriff would just go in and arrest them all.

Where are the people with the White Hats?

Carrying my peace flag at protests has not done a thing.

Writing a zillion letters has not done a thing.

Signing 3 zillion petitions has not done a thing.

Bitching to my husband, friends, parents, kids, and grandkids about it has not done a thing.

Screaming my head off at the tv has not done a thing.

Giving money to the candidates of my choice has not done a thing.

I have no white hat!

I read people on this board that say "hold on, it's going to get a whole lot worse" and it scares the hell out of me. I am 57 and I can not believe how horrible it already is.

I do have 1 acre and lots of seeds.





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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 09:42 AM
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25.  "1 acre and lots of seeds"..smart thinking....probably gonna come in handy
you're right though, we need a super hero at this point...i also have done everything i think i could do short of standing naked in the street...talked until my tongue was hanging on the floor and i dont really find that convincing anyone is as necessary as a few years ago...thats my point..the MAJORITY and i mean the overwhelming MAJORITY get it and are disgusted...now what? I cant wait another year...God knows what these creeps could conjur up...
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:31 PM
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12. Because People now are afraid to dump the familar in order to change and throw the bums out
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:21 PM
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18. i'm sorry what'd you say? i'm busy right now, Dancing With The Stars is on
could you please come back later?
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:40 PM
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22. Jason Webley has a song called:
Dance While the Sky Crashes Down

http://www.jasonwebley.com/music_against.html

Dance While the Sky Crashes Down


The flowers by your bed are wilting.
The sun is setting in the west.
A fog is covering your eyes,
Your stockings are attracting flies,
Decay is nibbling at the boards on which you rest.

There's someone waiting at your window,
Familiar face without a name.
One night he'll creep in like the mist,
To touch your forehead with a kiss,
And lead you back into the void from whence you came.

We've all begun to die, and don't know what to do.
Since it hurts to pray to God, when God is dying too.
Takes strength to laugh, when you start to drown.
And we dance while the sky crashes down.

Like that the earth begins to quiver,
And all the oceans turn to black.
A ship of maniacs with knives,
Are playing Blackjack with their lives,
To kill the time until the giant rats attack.

It's raining leprosy and acid.
The saints were taken out and shot.
When someone proffers you a pear,
You sink your teeth in unaware,
That just beneath the skin lies pestilence and rot.

All that now breathes, and all that you love,
All that we weave, will find its way back to the dust.

A band of skeletons is playing,
Don't act like you don't know the tune.
Your part is echoed in the path,
Of every dead leaf blowing past,
Against a counterpoint reflected off the moon.

There is a banquet at the table,
Exotic cheeses wines and cakes.
And every one of us is damned,
Until we start to understand,
That living is to gorge ourselves at our own wakes.

When the stakes are high, best to play the clown.
And we dance while the sky crashes down.



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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:26 PM
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23. I SO very much hear you!
:argh:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:13 AM
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24. Because we no longer have a representative democracy.
We have a government bought by special interests, and have had since Reagan.
Even the Clinton years were ushered in by an organization funded solely by large corporations (DLC).
As much as we loved The Big Dog, he did little to fix the damage done by Reagan.
Clinton merely slowed the lunge toward the CorpoRight and let them consolidate their gains.

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