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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:30 AM Original message |
Denial |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. No one will listen, nadin.. That is one inconvenient truth. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I know |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
2. Hmmmm.... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. We have been trained well |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Denial... |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
55. I'd say there may be some question about Kubler-Ross's ordering being correct, |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
113. are you sure? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
6. If what Ralph Nader said is true about not impeaching Bush, then... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. There you go... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:55 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Y'know what was funny? How many DUers decided to shoot the messenger. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. After tonight that was not a surprising response |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
62. perfectly stated. nt |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
112. and prevent discussion on the crucial issues that caused people to vote for him. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
8. Ignorance Is Bliss; Knowing Is Killing Me Slowly, as There Is Nothing I Can Do About It |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I guess, but I can't stay silent |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
12. What happened in New Orleans occurred right in front of everybody's face, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:20 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I hope we can stop it |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. The sad thing is, we have the lessons of history and the means to access them, yet they are ignored |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. The problem is that if you raise nazis |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Speaking of 'anomie' |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. Wow, some of those photos you took I assume |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 05:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. The Sad Thing Is That I Actually Believed It Couldn't |
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RFKJrNews (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
214. "What good fortune for governments that the people do not think." - Hitler |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #214 |
217. Thank you |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
54. Good one! |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
17. Denial indeed. |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
19. It isn't so much as denial, but people don't pay attention |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 05:59 AM Response to Original message |
20. You know where I stand on this issue. |
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Afje (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 06:32 AM Response to Original message |
21. Denial |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:52 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. On edit, I get what you mean |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
22. Sure it can happen here. And none of the posters |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. go away cali. you are nasty. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. No. Thanks for the ever so kind invitation |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. good idea. |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
212. Trust me. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. Oh geeeeeez nothing like calling the kettle black |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. and one liners prove your assertion so well. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
23. Let's demonstrate WHY some of what you wrote was challenged |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
25. K&R |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
26. Eyes that cannot discern the ink in the water... |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
27. I think the quote was actually "So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause!" |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
30. parts of an interview with costa-gavros and jean-claude grumberg, about their film |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
32. You can deplore this administration's crimes without claiming they inevitably lead to Nazi fascism |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Making all arguments that warn of parallels |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Guantanamo is a gulag. It is not however comparable to Soviet gulags or Dachau |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. The arguments many are making are trajectory. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. No, they are not "trajectory" |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. If you believe that there are elements of a police state,a nd that to continue on this road |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. You can agree that we are on that road, yet disagree that our road resembles that of Germany |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Wrong, you are misrepresenting the OP |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
221. By trajectory, I am refering to the steps to shut down a working democracy. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. But there have been times this country met all ten steps, and did not proceed to fascism |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
219. Those had an end game (the wars). They also did not involve acceptance |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. The concentration camps in Germany were only able to happen because of |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. But Germany's exemplars of the ten steps were on a wholly different magnitude |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. no. Germany got further along the steps. The whole point here is that the road |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. You are misrepresenting the author and the OP |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Their path does not resemble ours at all. Proto-fascist Germany is not comparable to where we are |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. And the OP refuses to use anyother example besides Nazi Germany |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
75. I don't think you read the book, did you? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. The author believes we are already a fascist nation |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. That would entail looking up her work and posting it for you. So do you think we have a true democra |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. Well, I hate to ask you to do something as difficult |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. I keep telling you to read it, and you say you dont need to, you already know more than the author. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. That's just untrue |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. ok. there are 3 of you attacking her premise, so I may have mixed you up. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #98 |
218. That's how they tend to start. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
72. nope. It stareted in the same way, and progressed slowly. You just know how their |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. It didn't start in the same way. Mass-scale politcal riots and shootings? Economic chaos? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. as PNAC put it" without 9-11 it would have taken a much longer time here". |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. You didn't answer my questions. Those elements were key in Germany's decline--where are they? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #86 |
96. Our discussion is about WHAT the 2 GOVERNMENTS did that is similar. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. The government -organized- the brutal, lethal reaction to worker riots in Germany |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Believe that if you want. or join us and fight it. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. So you deny the violence was govt-organized? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #106 |
121. what violence? what am i supposed to be denying? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #121 |
136. Post #100 - govt organize violence against workers |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #136 |
143. has nothing to do with this discussion. and, unfortunately, we are headed |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #143 |
163. The violence was HOW Hitler rose to power |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Fighting it doesn't include making a false historical comparison. That -undermines- the fight |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #107 |
120. I only see 3 people belittling. MOst people, upon hearing her theory get |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Ask your favorite history professor if our state is much like pre-fascist or fascist Germany |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #124 |
130. are you a history professor? besides what she says is: there are ten steps |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #130 |
139. We've heard about the ten steps |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #124 |
222. Nobody is making that claim. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. Thank you for bringing up Argentina |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. That is the part that is puzzling to her |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. That is the part that is puzzling to her |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. And Germans are people too!! |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. How their story ended |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
64. I will say it one again before you go on IGNORE |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. It's a shame that basic disagreement elicits such a closed-minded response from you |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
92. You continue to make the unbelievable claim that you want to discuss the METHOD |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
208. they are comparable |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. inevitable it is not. nor is that the argument. What is amazing is that when you |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. You are100% wrong |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. You obviously did not read the book! She says there are 10 steps to fascism. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. 10 of the 10 occured under Lincoln and FDR--right here. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. did you read it yet? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. Don't hide behind the book. I've seen her explain her thesis numerous times |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. It's all she has |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #85 |
137. You're discussing a thesis written about in a book. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #137 |
142. A thesis YOU wont post |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #142 |
148. here you go: the basic thesis is: |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #148 |
149. Only one minor quible, she uses Authoritarian systems |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #149 |
153. ok. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #153 |
162. Well, that explains why you don't see me criticizing Wolf |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. I was talking about the OP, not Wolf |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. The Op, and wolf say no such thing. They both say we are already in the process! |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. But our process doesn't resemble that of Germany--at all! |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. When asked if we are already a fascists state, Wolf said "YES" |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Wolf believes we are well on the way to fascism. 90% of the way there, in fact. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Wrong again. Wolf says we are already there |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. She would do well to distinguish between fascism and social-fascism |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. read the book. You are arguing semantics, not reality. really. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. read the book. you are arguing and just missing the whole point. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. We are -not- doing the same things as the Nazis, or even Weimar Germany |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. I disagree strongly with you. It is also very easy to see similarities between |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. If we were like Germany, Nader and Kucinich would be dead |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. wellstone is pretty dead. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. He was not rifle-butted in the face, shot, and dumped in a river |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. Those steps, to me, surely look like fascism. I dont believe there are any true democracies |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. America under FDR? America under Lincoln? Fascism to you? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #104 |
118. I dont see why you make the comparison at all. FDR tore down corporate power, |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Ah but FDR meets all ten of Naomi's steps |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. secret prisons? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. The internment camps don't qualify? If no, then Gitmo doesn't qualify |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #128 |
131. There was torture in the japanese camps? Never heard that before. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #131 |
141. Many died or were permanently injured for lack of medical care |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #141 |
145. no jsut going through the list. FDR's time doesn't fit in. MCCArthyism was the closest |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #128 |
134. you dont need gitmo for that argument. we have secret prisGons now all over the world, in |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #134 |
147. Then why did the OP insist on using Gitmo? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. who cares? why are you fighting the OP with such a vehemence? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #150 |
165. Did you read the OP? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #122 |
127. not even close. here they are: |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. I know what they are. Which do you think aren't met? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #132 |
140. here you go |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #140 |
154. 5, 6 and 10 all are YES by virtue of Japanese internment |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #132 |
146. this is hopeless. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #79 |
95. There are also similarities between * and Gandhi |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. Last weekend I went to best buys |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. I was just about to agree with you |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
108. In their mind, ignoring the differences is keeping an open mind |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #108 |
116. Sadly when you do that, you completely toss critical thinking |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
220. Yes, but if allowed to continue could get worse in its abuses. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
68. Actually, not to pick nits or count angels or whatever, that's |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #68 |
114. Do you mean the OP or the author, Wolf? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. No, I meant Wolf. Read Stiglitz' review. It's in post #63 |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #119 |
157. No, Wolf was pretty clear about it |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #157 |
177. That's interesting. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #177 |
190. "getting their rocks off" is a good way to put it |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
33. Denial is a survival strategy, not a great one, but there it is. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
69. I agree with him, the Interwebs are a tool |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
63. Here. A review of "The Shock Doctrine" |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
90. The modern totalitarian Empire superficially looks nothing like Germany... |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. I agree to a point--arguing it's not like Germany's decline indicates knowledge, not ignorance |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #94 |
110. People are always stuck with comparisons... |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #110 |
117. There are valid historical analogies. One just needs to acknowledge the capacity for error |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #110 |
123. I would rephrase that slightly. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #123 |
152. like this? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #110 |
167. There is nothing wrong with comparison |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #167 |
203. Agreed but... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #90 |
109. I actually agree with much of your post |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #90 |
224. to argue "it's nothing exactly like nazi germany" is to argue 2 empires must be 100% identical |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
111. kick |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
126. "Cassandra's Curse" |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
129. Most of this thread turned into arguing about different flavors of fascism, ignoring CURRENT THREATS |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. The fascists love when a bad argument marginalizes a real, crucial warning |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #133 |
138. the bad arguers are the ones doing the marginalizing |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #138 |
156. Uncritical illogical thinking got us into this mess. You would use the same to get us out? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #156 |
168. Nice strawman. No thanks. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #168 |
185. Go look in a mirror. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #168 |
205. How is that a strawman? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #138 |
166. smug putdowns? Did you read the OP? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. this bs is a waste of time |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. So being "in denial" was meant to flatter? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #170 |
175. go rack up your posts somewhere else. buzz away, little fly. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #175 |
191. I'm not going anywhere |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. I actually think they are AFRAID |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #135 |
144. the alarms been goin off for a long time |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #144 |
151. And that is the hardest step |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #151 |
155. that's the only step, unless one is a hypocrite. Not a hard choice. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #155 |
158. It should't be a hard choice |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #158 |
161. The elders in my family are afraid now. because of the mccarthy era. because |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #161 |
164. Some of my family friends came from Europe |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #144 |
160. BINGO! Maybe that is why they deny. Accepting this thesis means that we have to do |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #160 |
171. if only |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #171 |
182. You don't need to accept the thesis to have been fighting |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #182 |
187. so you agree fighting about it is pointless |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #187 |
189. no. I don't. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #189 |
202. fighting is a pointless waste of time |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #160 |
172. Straw man |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #160 |
174. What astonishing hubris and ignorance tied up in one |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #174 |
176. funny how those who want to fight here are some of the meanest, just like to fight |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. No, it's not just about liking to fight. it's about caring passionately |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #179 |
181. the meanness speaks for itself |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #181 |
184. That's an opinion. Not a fact. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. what's wrong with |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #186 |
188. I did that initially in her first thread |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #188 |
195. then don't bother |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #186 |
192. Ignoring the differences is "open-minded"; Considering the differences is "in denial" |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #192 |
194. another stupid strawman question. don't put your assumptions on me |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #194 |
197. Is that all you have? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #197 |
199. no, i've got your number |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. Feel free to call anytime, day or nite |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #200 |
210. LOL. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #129 |
159. um. you got it backwards. The point is not to amke the same mistake the German people made. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #159 |
173. no |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
178. Ok what amazes me is the incredible need to still |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #178 |
180. if we discuss instead of argue, maybe sumthin to think about is whether we have free&fair elections |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #180 |
183. Trust me, we tried |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #183 |
193. You only tried to avoid responding to criticism |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #193 |
196. flaming, baiting, stalking, attacking, taking fights from thread to thread...................... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #196 |
198. An excellent description of the OP |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #180 |
201. bingo again omega! |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
204. There's plenty of space between being in denial & being Chicken Little. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #204 |
206. Actually anything that has to do with AUTHORITARIAN models |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #206 |
207. Who is trying to silence you? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #207 |
209. No she doesn't . |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #207 |
211. I do, but it is the amount of thread hijacks that these guys |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #211 |
213. I think |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #213 |
215. It goes well beyond disagreement |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #213 |
216. *snort* |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #204 |
226. the details of the fabric's pattern has nothing to do with the pattern of the dress |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
223. The coincidental incidentals I posted in another thread. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #223 |
225. Yep, that is a good compilation |
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