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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 09:56 AM
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Does DU still allow third party discussion as it used to?
For me that isn't the case...

I do understand it - a presidential election gives the winner all, so a third party on the left would probably be dividing left powers, thereby giving the presidency to republicans.

One has to consider that a BIG independent party however, consisting of those who are really left today (e.g. 30%)plus a certain percentage of the 30% center voters (e.g. 5%), could also garner enough votes namely 36 % versus 35 % for the republicans. (or less close :-))

I do not know anymore whether it was exactly the same in the 04 primaries.

:shrug:

quien pensas?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:07 AM
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1. "As it used to?"
What?
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:09 AM
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4. I have the feeling the rules on that are being enforced more strictly.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:12 AM
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6. Good.
Why are people complaining that the rules that they agreed to are being enforced?
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:14 AM
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8. I was not complaining. Just asking a question.
And giving my opinion.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:26 AM
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15. My apologies. n/t
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:28 AM
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16. Thanks a lot for the civility, Lozoccolo
appreciate it

:hi:
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:33 AM
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19. Thats Funny ,
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:43 AM
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24. :-)
in a way, yes ;-)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:14 AM
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10. BMC was asking a question, not making a complaint. n/t
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:16 AM
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11. thanks for your understanding support, sfexpat2000 n/t
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:08 AM
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2. depends... what is your party.. then i can tell you why..
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:12 AM
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7. Social Democrats, now what :-)
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:51 AM
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26. do you mean this....... and you dont understand.?????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

:rofl: sorry but you need to meditate on why any association with Marxist/Leninistism after the cold war is the kiss of death in a Democracy.. i think it is stretching it t believe the 2 are at all compatible.

why do people think ron paul is the best Republican, cause his party can do exponentially more damage to modern civilization/ or destroy it totally.. than the repubs
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:57 AM
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27. okay just say socialist as it's called
over here
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:46 AM
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28. look.... it is maxkist , which i admire, but.. not possabe
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:09 AM
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3. There's already a party
that captures most of the left and much of the Center: The Democratic Party.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:11 AM
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5. True - question is who's got what percentage though
I know democrats often do well with a run to the center. But the other way around is also possible.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:14 AM
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9. We are stuck with a 2 party system, like it or not
and its going to take a long time to change that. Its going to have to change from within the two party system. The influence of 3rd parties is as spoiler. Around here the influence is as flamebait or argument. I love the ideals of the Green Party but in actual practice they spend a lot of time bashing Democrats, when they could do so much more good running as Democrats.

Thats my rant on third parties.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:19 AM
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13. It is also possible to influence the Dems from within, yes
and that may be equally good.

But if you want to get to a three-party system with a coalition left-center, then you've got to elect the most progressive ones now.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 01:09 PM
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29. thats what I'm trying to do, working with PDA
and since my state party won't allow a "progressive" caucus... they force us outside. In a way that makes it easier, they can't control us. And I hope that means Greens will hook up with us because they have some very good people.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:18 AM
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12. no.
now kneel before Zod and vote D!
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:20 AM
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14. don't faze me, bro
;-)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:29 AM
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17. Only on the regularly scheduled Hate Nader/Greens threads.
Where people calling themselves "liberals" do their best to quash anything that questions the right of the Democratic Party to own the votes of everyone.

“Freedom for supporters of the government only, for members of one party only, no matter how big its membership may be is, no freedom at all. Freedom is always freedom for the man who thinks differently."

Rosa Luxemburg
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:33 AM
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18. on DU, you're not alowed to 'think differently'
it's often refered to as 'bashing democrats'.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:37 AM
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21. Dats why dey call it democraticunderground and from the threads I read, people think differently, s
o what you talk'n about?
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:41 AM
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23. yes, and I agree the owners can stick to the stated purpose
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:38 AM
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22. I understand bashing is not allowed
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:35 AM
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20. Which are Scheduled for all of Sunday mornings.
It's like a meet-up.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:48 AM
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25. The rules are pretty straightforward...
"You are not permitted to use this message board to work for the defeat of the Democratic Party nominee for any political office. If you wish to work for the defeat of any Democratic candidate in any General Election, then you are welcome to use someone else's bandwidth on some other website."
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