Last year Ezra Klein introduced me to a word I had never heard: disintermediation. Simply put, Klein (and others) were saying that Gore was bypassing the American press in order to get his message out directly. In 2003 he began a series of speeches on the decline of America due to Bush’s disastrous foreign policy and contempt for our Constitution.

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_new_new_gore_031906

He has continued that path with a movie on global warming, An Inconvenient Truth, which has fundamentally changed the American debate on this most important issue. Along with publishing a companion book for the movie, he has also published a book (The Assault on Reason) on the decline of American discourse, due to the corporate control of television and other media. He goes on to talk about the power of the Internet to change American discourse so that it is two-way in nature (rather than one-way like television) with access for all citizens so as to re-vitalize our democracy.

I believe Al Gore is now running for president. He is using these principles of disintermediation and democratic discussion to run the kind of 21st century campaign worthy of his visionary record.. On Friday he held a news conference acknowledging his latest international honor, the Nobel Peace Prize. Toward the end, he stated

“I will be doing everything I can to try to understand how to best use the honor and recognition of this award as a way of speeding up the change in awareness and the change in urgency. It is truly a planetary emergency and we have to respond quickly.”

Gore has stated in recent months that he is waiting to see if the Democratic candidates will give this issue the attention it deserves and that he isn’t currently satisfied with what they have done.

Today, Gore launched his new version of Current (formerly current.tv, now current.com). Not only did he launch it, for the first time he added content. Today he took three major positions:

1. We should get out of Iraq as quickly as practicable;
2. Universal, single-payer health care for all Americans; and
3. The need for new protections for all Americans from governmental spying.

http://current.com/people/algore

In other words, he has taken common sense positions on major campaign issues that leave Hillary and Obama sucking his dust. Of course his concrete proposals on climate change are also light years ahead of any viable Democratic candidate. Soon, I believe he will follow up on his promise to reflect on how best to use his award to help save our civilization by formally announcing his candidacy. It won’t be a traditional campaign, but a visionary one.

Just as 1960 was the first campaign where television changed the race (television viewers thought Kennedy won the historic debate, while the smaller number of radio listeners thought Nixon won), the 2008 campaign will be the first where the Internet plays a major role in determining the outcome.

In 2000, the press framed Al Gore as a liar. That is why some people still believe that Gore said he invented the Internet, or discovered Love Canal, or the Love Story lie, etc., etc. This is why some people still believe that Gore didn’t emphasize the environment, because of the lies of the press. In 2008, Al Gore will be speaking for himself to a much greater extent, aided by fact-checking bloggers. That is a truth which could be much more than convenient, for us and our planet.

That'd be fantastic.

I hope we all get to benefit from that work. :)

He gives me hope.

but he is one of the favorite kicking cans of the mainstream press and the RWing. I would hate to see someone that could do so much good be destroyed a second time by a coorperate controlled media, which like it or not is still too powerful for the internet blog-o-sphere to overpower. I think Al would work better as a rouge agent working to sway public opinon away from this out of control Republican ideology, and try to bring things closer to a moderate view, if not a left wing view.

I think we can all agree that the current movement of our country is so far to the right of moderate it is not even funny.

...but as for the right-wing...they don't speak for all conservatives. I have actually had probably 5 different conservatives in recent weeks acknowledge to me that they ARE in fact impressed with Al Gore, and would probalby vote for him if he ran.

This simply BLEW ME AWAY, especially the ones who offered the opinion without my asking :) :)

Or because he is not being introduced as "Democractic *job position*" anymore?

I think the perception of his has improved on both sides because he has played climate change as completely non-partisan. Will be interesting to see how the public reacts to "Democratic" Al Gore rather than "Champion of the Environment" Al Gore.

Hence the Nobel. Why would you think we aren't benefitting from his work now? What do you think Current is? The Alliance for Climate Protection? The Climate Project? Generation Investment Management? An Inconvenient Truth? The movie, the book, the new book coming out next May to give us solutions, the slideshows, the meetings, the progress he has forged on a global scale? Are you stating none of it is of benefit unless he runs in this decrepid system again? A system many just sit and allow to rot more daily while shaking their pom poms? Just what do you want from the man? After thrity years in that cessspool it isn't enough? You want him to suffer some more? To give up all he has to do what exactly? What guarantees do you have that progress would be made in that snake pit? He has excoriated CONGRESS in his video, and that means Democrats as well. Any guesses as to why?

:evilgrin:

Wasn't he a part of Bill Clintons administration ? :evilgrin:

A Clinton koinky doink hoping to repair himself back to those heady days of the Clinton Presidency.
Gore? Their worst nightmare.

Actually, that's good news.

dog shit. He doesn't need them. He's got Current TeeVee and the Internet. So far, he's done everything right and the RWers are scared shitless that he will run. He won once and you had better believe the people who voted for him the first time will see the wrong committed on him by the SCOTUS righted!:grr:

K$R!!!!

it will be poetic justice at is finest if he runs and wins.

Could it be true? Be still my beating heart.

Gore IS our President!

The train cometh, jump aboard.

Because I just came across a poll on Friday, after Gore was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize,
that asked if Gore ran for President, would you vote for him?
And, there is still approximately 35% of those that cast a vote, that stated that they would
not vote for Gore. This was not-scientific, with no margin for error listed.
So, is 65% - 35% considered a landslide?
35% appear to be the hardcore Republicans, what if they convinced another 13% to vote with
them? That margin would be within stealing-the-election-numbers. AGAIN!

Also, I think Hillary would come after Gore as well. How dare he take away my presidency.

Actually 35% is high for hard core repugs. I believe that 28% would be the considered hard core that would vote Republican even if they committed a crime and were found guilty. And considering recent news about young voters the Republicans are losing instead of maintaining a piece those voters.

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — Al Gore's Nobel Peace Prize hasn't translated into an increase in support for a presidential bid, a poll found Tuesday.

Asked if they would like to see the former vice president run for president in 2008, people said no by a 54 percent to 41 percent margin, according to a Gallup Poll. That was about the same as last March, when people opposed his running 57 percent to 38 percent.

Even among Democrats there was no visible surge of interest in Gore. In the new survey, 48 percent said they would like him to run and 43 percent said they would not. Last March, Democrats were in favor of him entering the race 54 percent to 41 percent — statistically the same as the new poll...



Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hDeUWlQBWVo-FfWVbMcL...

whatever the polls are without him even getting in I believe a mass wave of vision will sweep over a, campaign as usual weary, populous and erupt into a huge following for Gore. He will reach the young people quickly and win the election.

The so-called media will never give him his due so he has created his own media. I'm one of the people who voted for him the first time. I want to see him take the office he rightfully earned and deserves.

The man, in my opinion, is destined for the White House. It may not happen in 08, but I believe he will get there. How I hope, and dare I say it, pray, that he runs. For the good of the country, and the world.

Al, you more than anyone has the right to tell everyone "I told you so."

I could see Al Gore's campaign commercials now. ...He'll use clips from his debates with Chimpy...

We’ll all be reminded of how he wanted to put our surplus of Social Security in a “LOCKBOX”, or how Bush’s tax cuts are for the wealthiest Americans, and the very missed “Pay-as-you-go” system of economics.

.....And just once again, I’d like to see the clip of Kerry’s “I voted for the $80 million, before I voted against it” clip. But this time I want to hear his next sentence. I want all freepers to see and hear how Kerry was explaining (the now well known fact), BUSH’S WAR CHEST ISN’T SPENT ON OUR TROOPS!!! :mad:

Wow.
Thanks, I was beginning to be a tad worried. Forgive me.

K&R

K and R with this thread!

Be Presidential for the next 12 months, Mr Gore, and transform the campaign process in America. You will be President in 2009 and humanity will be much the better because of your continued leadership.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2048093&mesg_id=2048093

Thank you,
Bob

*policy* outside of office is a damn fool...Al Gore knows he has to run!!..."The Assault on Reason"

is a blueprint of why he has to run for president!

He knows if he doesn't we are doomed..as a Republic Democracy..and he knows more than anyone..Hillary is not part or parcel ..of the answer..

i do not believe he will let us go down that road ..or will let this continue.

He will stop the Assault on this nation and our constitution, and bill of rights..and the destruction of our global environment..but he will engage us all in it..

that is what i believe..


fly

And hopefully a Congress with high quality individuals.

It is our nation, our Congress, our representation. We just vote for the candidates who get behind his positions.

And we tell those candidates RIGHT NOW that we will not accept half-assed lip service to issues so vital to our survival, as a nation AND as a species.

Run, Al. I'm begging you. Only a true Patriot can save our nation and our planet now. We need you.

vs. voting for a candidate that you know thru many contacts during the campaign.

If you attend functions that candidates attend you have a better chance to express your views and be heard then just as a voter. It also depends on the venue available for meeting those candidates.

Collecting signatures on the Nomination Paper to put Al Gore's name on the California primary ballot. We'll be done December 4 or sooner.

Now, THAT'S news!

I am a California voter. Can you PM me a link?

If so, you can contact patricksmcgovern@gmail.com. He's our coordinator. Otherwise, contact california4gore.org and they'll put you in touch with someone.

and we should listen.

Run Al! Run.

:woohoo:

Hey DU-you've got some competition! :evilgrin:

quite clear. Avoiding it in a campaign (Presidential or otherwise), thus starving the beast, would seem logical for him until or unless it became absolutely necessary.

http://www.amazon.com/World-According-Gore-Incredible-President/dp/1602392323/ref=sr_1_1/105-1586266-8395656?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1191353995&sr=8-1

Other candidates have either put out books about what their positions are, or have had them done by a ghostwriter/friend. Since Gore is running such a stealth campaign, and he doesn't want to detract attention from his main focus of global warming; he had someone else put out his 'position' book.

Absolutely BRILLIANT.

:wow:

lildreamer316 <- :yourock:

How did you find this book? It deserves its own thread! Do you want to post one?


The World According to Gore: The Incredible Vision of the Man Who Should be President

Yeeeeeeees!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1960777

Of course, also posted in the Al Gore '08 group.

Thanks to Mabus....

Barnes and Noble don't have any copies - out of stock. I just sent them an email.

if I run across it before you do, I'd be glad to pick up an extra copy for ya. I'll keep you posted.(haven't had the money for my own until now..)

Thanks anyway :D

:rofl:

-Hoot

I think Bill Katovsky saw a market for this book and rushed to fill it quickly.

If Gore has not jumped into the race by early November, it will be too late for him to even enter some of the primaries. So there is a small window for this book to appear "relevant".

Of course - if the Admiral is right (see OP) and Al Gore does announce his candidacy, then I guess the book will sell a lot of copies and Katovsky might become a wealthy man.

PS - Bill Katovsky has his own blog on Huffington Post:
www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-katovsky/waiting-for-gore-run-_b_68224.html


Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Sign the Live Earth Pledge: www.liveearthpledge.org

Visit Al's site www.algore.com and read his blog http://blog.algore.com

Sign the petitions at www.algore.org and www.draftgore.com

Visit www.americaforgore.org and send your two cents to Al!

:kick:

He has taken to heart the beauty of blogs, of internet, of word-of-mouth campaigning.

The "forerunners" in the race are dependent (addicted) to their yes-men and advisers and to the traditional media outlets. They have no idea the true ambivalence or outright disregard many of us feel regarding their status as candidates.

Gore for President.

...everybody else is tripping over themselves to raise millions to be funneled back into the media machine and their corporate cronies? Al would be vindicated on a whole other level. It would be shear genius. He may not have invented the internet, be he sure as hell "gets it" a whole lot more than anyone else in politics today.



.

I've been pondering his carefully chosen words for some time. This is great stuff! Thanks for posting! K&R!!!

:toast:

I took her to the hospital, they were kind as could be but without insurance she was pretty much just wrapped up and sent on her way, they said she needed it to be reset, surgery and so gave us numbers of drs to call, long and short of it, without insurance, no specialist will touch her, they all told her she had to go to the only hospital in town that takes welfare patients, so now needing surgery, she has been put on a waiting list for surgery to fix her broken arm.

Love this country and its so called caring about it's people, she has cash and offered to pay, it didn't matter, crazy.

May god forgive us all for what we have allowed to happen in this nation.

:(

And Mr. Fish is BRILLIANT!

legal aid or to an attorney where your sister resides. Some states have laws that prohibit doctors from refusing treatment to a patient who demonstrates the ability to pay for such treatment - or who pay in advance for treatment. Some states have laws on the books that prohibit price discrimination (i.e., charging different prices for the same services to different patients) for medical services.

Might work. Might not. Thing is if the law is on your sister's side and if she has the money to pay for the medical care then she has the money to pay a legal retainer and seek damages. Legally, refusal to treat a patient with the documented ability to pay is something very different from refusal to pay someone without the ability to pay. A doctor who accepts some patients while refusing others who have the ability to pay opens himself up to all sorts of allegations including violation of his professional oath and various prohibited forms of discrimination among other things.

http://www.house.gov/conyers/news_hr676.htm

Brief Summary of HR 676: “The United States National Health Insurance Act,”
Or “Expanded & Improved Medicare For All”

"Of all the forms of inequality,
injustice in health care is the most shocking and inhumane."
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

· The United States National Health Insurance Act establishes an American national health insurance program. The bill would create a publicly financed, privately delivered health care system that uses the already existing Medicare program by expanding and improving it to all U.S. residents, and all residents living in U.S. territories. The goal of the legislation is to ensure that all Americans will have access, guaranteed by law, to the highest quality and most cost effective health care services regardless of their employment, income, or health status.
· With over 45-75 million uninsured Americans, and another 50 million who are under- insured, the time has come to change our inefficient and costly fragmented non health care system.

Who is Eligible

· Every person living in or visiting the United States and the U.S. Territories would receive a United States National Health Insurance Card and ID number once they enroll at the appropriate location. Social Security numbers may not be used when assigning ID cards.

Health Care Services Covered

· This program will cover all medically necessary services, including primary care, in patient care, outpatient care, emergency care, prescription drugs, durable medical equipment, long term care, mental health services, dentistry, eye care, chiropractic, and substance abuse treatment. Patients have their choice of physicians, providers, hospitals, clinics and practices. No co-pays or deductibles are permitted under this act.

Conversion To A Non-Profit Health Care System

· Private health insurers shall be prohibited under this act from selling coverage that duplicates the benefits of the USNHI program. Exceptions to this rule include coverage for cosmetic surgery, and other medically unnecessary treatments. Those who are displaced as the result of the transition to a non- profit health care system are the first to be hired and retrained under this act.

Cost Containment Provisions/ Reimbursement

· The National USNHI program will set reimbursement rates annually for physicians, allow for "global budgets" (annual lump sums for operating expenses) for health care providers; and negotiate prescription drug prices. The national office will provide an annual lump sum allotment to each existing Medicare region; each region will administer the program.

· The conversion to a not-for-profit health care system will take place over a 15 year period. U.S. treasury bonds will be sold to compensate investor-owned providers for the actual appraised value of converted facilities used in the delivery of care; payment will not be made for loss of business profits. Health insurance companies could be sub-contracted out to handle reimbursements.

Proposed Funding For USNHI Program:

· Maintaining current federal and state funding of existing health care programs. A modest payroll tax on all employers of 3.3%. A 5% health tax on the top 5% of income earners. A small tax on stock and bond transfers. Closing corporate tax loop-holes, repealing the Bush tax cut.

they are valuable information that more in Du might need to learn about thank you both, for right now she is scheduled to see a specialist at the hospital on Friday and they told her she can make payments and only needs seventy five dollars for the initial payment which she can easily afford.

and how Gore used Move-On for disintermediation...now it makes perfect sense why the neo cons grabbed onto the Ad by Move -On to smear them and try to marginalize them..they know..they know Gore is going to run..or they are scared shitless he will run..so they tried to marginalize the one Group Gore has used for disintermediation..they had to try to crush Move-On before Gore could run..

but what did it do within the progressives and dems..it back fired on the Neo cons..it motivated Dems and progressives to dig into their pockets..and give to Move-On...

Gore has virtually beat them at their own game!!

he fucking out smarted them!!....big time..because people that had never given to Move -On did so because of the Petraeus ad...there by enlarging their lists of contributors..and it even garnered more Independants...for Move On..and possibly some republicans..a bigger list is now had by Move On..for disintermediation that Gore will probably use should he thrown his name in the fray...

it was brilliant..absolutely brilliant..

wow i am so impressed by this article..thank you for bringing it to our attention!!

I had also noticed over a month ago Hillary putting out a few jabs at Gore..and i thought..she knows..or she is scared shitless also..

no one knows the inside of this machine better than Al..no one..we can only think we are smart..about it all..Al *is* smart about it all..he knows who is owned by who..and where and when!!

and ...for me i await..

RUN AL RUN....

fly

Al Gore, the once and future president.

Al Gore #44

The San Francisco speech against the war in September 2002 was historic. I chose to reference the MoveOn speeches (which began, I believe in August 2003), because for me they represent the "new politics" because they were sponsored by an Internet-based organization. My recollection is that the 2002 speeches were traditional in sponsorship.

Al Gore Speeches: 2002-2006

http://www.pacificviews.org/weblog/archives/002040.html

Imagine dignity restored to the Democratic process. Imagine the lowered blood pressure and relative adult discourse.

No games, no psy-ops, no advisors on how and when to laugh, how to dress, what to say/not say to what group, no advertising techniques.

You bet I'm recommending this one.

:hi: :hug:

I think he can do whatever the hell he wants at this point! :D

If he's on some states doo-hickies, or something. Tap his heels three times. Something, Delegates, switch, promise commitment for second choice, they's all got different dates... More cabernet sauvignon, madame?

Someone please assist this kind, questioning woman, won't you?

:rofl: I love you too, NB! :hug:

Damn... promising, promising... praying praying...

That's what we say in our house when we get so excited we just can't stand it.

:bounce: giggle :bounce:

So he can do what he wants instead of being limited by sound bites. I figure November/Dec. He can wait and do the book tours, the Daliy Show, Tonight Show, Letterman etc on the heels of his nobel win.... again etc without equal time constraints.....

He really needs to declare before the end of October IMHO. Maybe he can cram in 5 or 10 interviews with Oprah, King, etc... before then. That would be cool. But this would probably be based on them rescheduling other guests.

"Dave who did you say was calling....FUCKING AL GORE?!?!?! WHEN CAN HE COME ON??? NOW! NOW GODDAMNIT! WHO'S ON? WAIT, WHO CARES WHO'S ON???? BUMP 'EM!!! BUMP 'EM!!! BOOK HIM QUICK, QUICK QUICK!!!"

Does anyone delude themselves that this conversation could not happen DAILY from now until next November?

That he's a hot property right now is a bonus.

Good one though. Like last week when Dave kept dancing around with J LO about her pregnanacy.....

Even if it's not a huge ratings boost, it's a hell of an ego boost and makes them feel less like entertainers and more like news people.

Seriously, I would love to see him enter at some point.

Edit: Isn't Wes Clark basically doing the same with his speeches and the stances he takes on different issues over at his WesPac?

I hope we hear something soon.

I'm in Michigan in Manufacturing. I think I'll give Al a "BY" on NAFTA for now.

My relatives on the East Coast don't tread water well.

Gore for the NAFTA.

It's used as a cudgel against him.

as I have forgiven Wellstone and Feingold for not voting for the Kyoto Accord and Bobby Kennedy for starting his career on Joe McCarthy's staff as a witch hunter.

Having said that, I have seen statements by Gore (similar to those of Dean) that labor and environmentalists need a place at the table.

I say....oh who cares.

You got the drift. I guess the usage is now archaic. Sucks to be old.

used that way properly back then either.

I guess it's easier for people to speak the words then to know them.

And CAFTA and it's turned into SHAFTA???

What about the formerly middle class?

because of NAFTA, etc... and because he was such a shill for Clinton foreign policy in his Senate days. Not to mention he was one of 10 Dem Senators to vote for the original Iraq war, etc..

But he seems to have undergone a personal and political transformation. Let's pray that it's real! Pray pray pray. And if it is, then lets pray the OP is correct on all counts. This combination of circumstances - a real Gore transformation and a Gore run - seems the only hope we have.

Help us Gore-Be-One Kanobi. You're our only hope.

there was a thread about this yesterday. According to the OP, the version of NAFTA introduced by Bill and Al was quite different from the one that was eventually made law by congress. Gore may have well being advocating something good at the time that got corrupted by the thugs. So until I know more about it, I'm not going to hold it against him. Meanwhile, Bill Clinton had no business signing the final version into law.

Are you saying he was a Senator and Vice President at the same time?

Brain fart. Hope you can excuse it. :)

He was actually a shill for Reagan/Bush foreign policy til '93. Even worse.

I haven't a clue.

I've "felt" all along this is what he has been trying to do. Thanks for your references! Go Al!!

there in the cosmos is listening cause I'm going to give it another go. Gore is the prime candidate.

was my freak out day if Al gore hadn't entered the race yet.

But your post has calmed my freak out.

Thank you.




Rec # 75

Or Obama as VP. But Kucinich would be better.
HE ALSO supports single payer. It is really a
very important thing to note, no other folks
running for the nomination on our side are.
Just Gore and Kucinich. That is to me the
most important thing in this race today.

Just RUN AL RUN!!!!

that it is ABSOLUTELY Gore's time - a karma kind of thing to make up for 2000 - and then I got thinking maybe it should be Edwards to run with him - you know a karma thing to make up for 2004 - the men who should have been President and Vice President.....I believe both elections were stolen...

I have thought for a while that Edwards wouldn't want the second spot again but you know I'm beginning to change my mind

AND - I really think something must be up because WHY if Al Gore wasn't at least SERIOUSLY considering running doesn't he just flat out definitievly SAY SO?

that's why I still have hope...

and did so in a concise way that deserves admiration.

Thank you.

n/t

how to bypass the corrupt media currently in place!

However if those are the three principles that Gore is pushing then I would have to say I would be comfortable with him winning the primary.

That said I will not wait and waste time pining away for him while Hilary is trying to push her way into a coronation.

...while you're at it. I see this more as a BobbyKennedy sandbags Gene McCarthy moment since I support John Edwards (who has a better chance than Dennis Kucinich unfortunately IMHO). You take what you can get. I wish Gore would have thrown his support to Edwards and I think it's a shame he hasn't done so.

But if he is running, I'm in since he's already won the Presidency once !

snubbed Lieberman when Lieberman ran for president in '04. Gore endorsed Howard Dean way early on in the primary.

Gore shoved HIS OWN (DLC appointed, strategically suggested?) ex-running mate out of the way. He snubbed Lieberman like a nasty ex-wife who poisoned the kids against him.

DUers aren't the only ones who had Joe's number.

Remember the three crappy arguments you'll see presented here against Gore:

* He chose Lieberman as a running mate.

* He's better off in the private sector.

* He was DLC.

-They're all horsecrap.

we WAS DLC, not he IS. big difference. He has also done more to spark environmental awareness in the USA than anyone I can think of. He took a hint from Michael Moore. Bypass the media, make a documentary. He is adored on this side of the Atlantic for what he is doing in the name of the global warming awareness. He would greatly IMPROVE the image of the USA in the eyes of the world. End war, Health care for all, and protections against spying!!! what a great candidate. Run AL! for the good of the world run. Landslide, landslide agaisnt any Republican excet a more narrow victory over Ron Paul (a lot of paul supporters could vote Gore for an anti spying stance.)

Perhaps Al should run, win, and work to rename the party the Social Democrat Party of the United States.

DLC.

Another uninformed attack is by way of Tipper and her efforts to get a consumer label on music containing adult content so that parents can regulate their underage children's consumption of such material.

No I don't think it's a good idea to rename the Democrats. But that name, such an echo of a sad part of history, would be a superb name for the Repubelickin's :D

the Social Democrats name, they have such a party in Germany today.

that the Hitler movement was "left" because of the initial use of "socialist" in their name. Also in America, the "Democrat party" has been used for decades as an insult to the Democratic Party.

what part of the US are you from? I lived in and near Chicago for 24 years and I never picked up on that "Democrat Party" thing. The Nazis were so called "national socialists" but even the Germans were able to move on from that. Anyway the Democratic Party can keep thier name, they just need to run good leftist candidates.

What brought you to Europe? And what do your neighbors say about Gore? How does the press cover him there?

is French. Generally Gore is known for his recent film about global warming. The press covered the release of his movie but France became much more concerned about global warming after the 2003 heatwave so it is not necessarily because of Gore. Many folks here, left or right, do not understand why the USA has not signed on to Kyoto and see this film as a sign that some Americans get the picture.

I Think that The hurricanes in the US helped to give Americans a nudge. And now we have drought in some regions.

He knows how the game is played.
He knows who is truly running the country.
He knows that if you get in these peoples way, you will have an "accident".
He knows that the game is rigged from the primary to the general.
He knows that the US economy is held up with scotch tape and chewing gum and once a dem. is in charge they will let it flop.
He knows that as soon as a democrat is elected interest rates will jump.
He knows that the price at the pump will also take a jump.

So I think that he's smarter than that, who would want all of that blamed on them.


Latr

Can you think of anyone else who is experienced and wise enough in battle to upset the power of "they" without going to bed with them?

Because we actually do things that stimulate the growth of new industries and new jobs. And, since we're not insane, flight capital returns to us from whence it has flown. (Although it will be a lot harder this time.)

Yes, the economy is being held together with chewing gum and duct tape, but that's because it's under a rapacious Republican administration. The economy, nightmarish as it is, isn't the real problem.

The real problem is very likely the dissolution of the federal system under the pressure of millions of coastal refugees looking for homes, jobs, food, and shelter in the central states which are under crisis of crop failure.

you hadn't heard we are broke and not a lot of outsiders are ready to buy our junk treasuries lately to help us out. The two parties are different sides of the same coin, they are both doing the bidding of their corporate masters. It's not if there is a Dem or Rep controlled congress, for the corps it's business as usual. I could foresee and almost even split on the House and Senate, this way anything, anybody wanted to pass that would actually do some good, like repeal the tax cuts Bush put in, could easily be shot down or drowned in some committee. The strongest best intentioned President can't do squat if the 2 houses won't go along with it.

Latr

run god damn it!

Please please please please - *opening eyes just a little to see if it has come true* - DAMN IT!!!

Here's hoping you have better luck - Earth knows we need Al!

he knows who runs them..and who the operatives are..he knows how many have been "done in " by them ..he knows our dem congress is scared shitless of them..whoever them is and it is a collective "Them"..he knows..he knows who "they are"..he knows who "they " run..

it is the octopus..and he knows where the head is..and he knows they must be stopped..for the world's sake..for all of our sake..for the future of this country's sake..

Al Gore is smarter than smart..

and me thinks..he is about to beat "them" at their own game..their evil game..and he will do it with the help of "we the people"...

are you ready..i sure as hell am ready!!

Run Al RUN!!

fly

RUN AL! We could KO the Republicans with him. Majority of Senate, House, majority in the majority of state houses and senates, a majority of Democrat governors, it would tempt me to move back to the USA if it continued in 2012.

...and I believe he means it, he's old-school that way...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2045304">Get Ready To Read Bush His Miranda Rights

...and I really really REALLY wanna see this little scene go down one day very soon:



On the other hand, Kucinich remains something of a voice in the wilderness; he doesn't have Gore's recognition factor, not by a long shot... they both have serious negatives to deal with, nearly all of them absolutely MANUFACTURED by the right-wing media--except for Gore's public capitulation and abdication of the position that should surely have been his back in 2000, had he fought harder for it... and this still irks me to this day; all I really know for sure about Gore is that he knows how to surrender in the face of nearly EVEN odds...
But that little hopeful voice within also dreams that perhaps Gore or Kerry will eventually return, stronger and smarter and better-organized than before, to claim what was stolen from them...
Hell, I'll be surprised if we even GET another election to vote in; I'm waiting for these fuckers to engineer another "surprise attack" on America so Generalissimo Butch and his neocon buddies can go to DefCon 4, declare martial law and put everyone's remaining civil rights into a "lock-box" along with whatever shreds of the Constitution they can still scrape up...
Until that actually happens though, I will continue to hope that Gore or Kucinich or SOMEBODY can still get in there and try and turn this sinking ship around...
So cheers to all! Go Gore Go!

:toast:

http://www.steponnopets.com/peo">President Evil Online has risen from the grave!

:rofl: That would be too good! Kerry, with his experience prosecuting the BCCI scandal, and having gone through Iran/Contra hearings...he may well be ready to prosecute the neocons for their heinous crimes!

Then, hopefully, Gore/Kerry would OUTLAW the fucking SECRET vote-counting machines forever & ever amen, and bring the media back under SERIOUS government regulation.

I'd LOVE IT!! Gore/Clark would be my other favorite ticket.

:kick::kick::kick:

THIS man is my numero uno choice for 08.

different basis. Actually I've been hardly daring to hope.

Disintermediation is happening everywhere because of our new localized, dispersed, electronic embedded technologies. Toffler and McLuhan both discussed its effects. It is why many management jobs are disappearing. People will be doing things that are productive directly, not so much managing other people.

That was terrific. I hope and pray you are right.

I am not sure he is running, butit is a hopeful sign. He needs to declare within the next two weeks for practical purposes. Oh, I hope & I pray...

RUN AL RUN!

Then I came to my senses.

Thanks for the moment though. I'd love to be proved wrong but I still doubt President Gore is going to run.

Took forever to load, and the pages look incomplete, some graphics missing, links don't work.

I think they were tweaking it or something.

http://current.com/people/algore

Register & write him & tell him to RUN AL RUN!

the Dem 08 platform.

He has just drawn the line in the sand, and is in my mind saying, these are the price I exact to let the rest of you even play at running.

The moment I see you back away from this line, I wipe you all away. So even if he gets a name on the ballot in the early states, I would wait to say beyond a doubt. He may be the head of the platform committee. He may free up Howard Dean to run for the Congress.

Really, he has juice and he has a mission. I am interested in seeing what happens next.

and he's a Democrat. Governor Dean lives a few blocks away from me, in the same city precinct (it's his legal residence, this I know because he's voted at my polling place in the most recent elections). I doubt he'd take on Leahy or Sanders in the Senate, either.

Unless Gov. Dean moves to another state and takes up legal residency there, he won't be in Congress anytime soon.

Al has never been all that comfortable in politics. He likes being a behind-the-scenes guy - and he's good at it - but he's not that comfortable being a frontman.

I think he has a real bad taste in his mouth from all the bullshit of 2000 and is much more in his element now. This is his calling, he's comfortable with it. He might have a place in politics, but I don't think he aspires to the presidency any more.

Frankly, I don't blame him.

There is absolutely nothing "behind-the-scenes" about taping these policy statements.

If he is the shrinking violet you seem to claim he is, he has an odd way of showing it. :D

v

Now I'm hungry. I hope you're right.

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

Or words to that effect...

that was, simply put, one of the best political speeches I'd ever seen.. I wish I could remember the date and find a link to the damned thing :evilfrown:

I'll eat my own dirty underwear live on DU Vision if he runs.

Big words, complete bullshit.

Sorry, Goreians. He's not running for President again. Why would he?

I respect Gore for his newly found position as Climate Change Guru of Planet Earth. Really, I do. If he'd run for President on that issue in 2000, I would have voted for him. Now, he's recognized WORLD-WIDE as a leader, while Bush is UNIVERSALLY ridiculed. That's strong.

Why would he want to give that up and dive into the cesspool of American presidential politics?

Let's face the truth here: Being POTUS come 2008 is gonna be a LIABILITY rather than an ASSET.

Again: I respect Gore's stance. He WON'T run. He's in a much better place now.

He has a lot of assets already.

Know what I mean?:shrug:

He won't run.

Ten bucks on the quiniela: Gore doesn't run, Clinton finishes.

It's a long article listed in the OP, but if you haven't read it yet, I think it would be a good idea. :-)

I'm still skeptical.

Shit or get off the pot.

That sure worked out for the Fred Heads, waiting and teasing.

Meanwhile, legitimate candidates have been working their asses off...

By the way, I can't respect him for choosing to run, because HE'S NOT RUNNING!

Love you anyway. :)

(Just in case!)

See now, that's what you call your love in action. :loveya:

It's what I want for my universe. :)

I'm right.

The man is not running. Now's the time to pick a candidate whose policies you like and get to work.

This now is the beginning of the season.

There's plenty of time. I actually resent that the campaigns were started an entire year ahead of schedule.

cynical bullshit at that.

Thank you, Admiral.:thumbsup: :)

I really like Gore, but :wtf: was he thinking??

Rec'd

geez, I was just getting comfortable with his not running. In my mind I just sadly let it go. I'm up, down, now with this post, I'm getting all excited again!



It's OK Al, I don't mind. I happen to love roller coasters.

Please run for Pres again!!!

:bounce: Gore44 :bounce:

I think it might be possible that Al definitely plans to run, but was not planning to run in 08. I think perhaps his work with Climate Change isn't finished. But I hope he sees that we can't wait another 4 or 8 years for him to decide. We need him now. :-(

I like these 3 points especially:

1. We should get out of Iraq as quickly as practicable;
2. Universal, single-payer health care for all Americans; and
3. The need for new protections for all Americans from governmental spying.

I'm working on Assault on Reason

:grouphug:

I still don't think he's running.

However, I'm writing him in twice.

Once in the primaries, once in the general.

Got my voter registration card at the ready!

I cannot argue with a single one of his important issues. he could get 70% of the popular vote and nearly all the electoral college. He would get Florida based on the health care stance alone, not to mention Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, New Mexico, New York, California, he could win most if not all of the deep south (especially against a "big city" NYC guy). think of how much less shit we would take from our bosses were health insurance a right, not just something one had to pay for on their own or depend on their employer to pay for.

I would love to see Gore run but, I am completely convinced he will not do it with Hillary in the race. I do not believe Gore would run against her.
Gore has enough good character to keep from ruining his friend's chances at a great victory.
I would love to be wrong. Time will tell.
Just if anyone would want to guess the future, I am thinking, Hillary will get the nomination and select Bill Richardson as her running mate. The only hope other Democrats have is if Edwards and Obama make an agreement to run together, and do it quickly. That is the only hope I see for the Hillary train to get derailed.
Richardson will be Hillary's choice to pull Hispanic and southern votes from the Republicans. Once again, it will look like African-Americans will be taken for granted by the Democratic Party and Obama will be off the ticket. Again, I would love to be wrong, but, again, time will show if this comes true.

:-) Gore and Sen. Clinton are not friends. Nope.

Was Lieberman his friend? Is that why he endorsed Howard Dean over Lieberman in 2004? Maybe Gore isn't a person to become friends with if one is expecting political favors from that friendship? :D

bush**.

:thumbsup:

with money, precinct walking, et al

I hope this is right. It all makes sense, and for the first time since 2000 it might actually give me a little bit of hope for this country.

Circumventing the media and what controls it, circumventing the mudslinging and the garbage and the nonsense of political campaigning... doing something different, thinking differently, finding a better way to do things and quietly doing them. A stealth campaign, right under everyone's nose. Not politicking, not campaigning, not making promises and not self-promoting... just walking the walk and leading by example.

Beautiful!

I hope I hope I hope :)

Al is the best choice!

It's beautiful.

We had our chance.

:D

:D

I'll vote for whomever is nominated, I guess, but Gore's the only one I'd get out and work for.

I will do my civic duty no matter what, but for Gore, I will campaign, I will lick envelopes, I will blood let if that's what it takes.

I've been watching this site like a hawk for news of Gore's entrance into the race. You are a tease.

If anyone understands political chess it is Al Gore. Hail to the chief.

People who until today though they say they support him didn't give a damn about CURRENT and its mnessage until they could use it as another vehicle to beg him instead of making that two way dialogue he was hoping for.

so much as the staking out of the issues, of course I could be wrong.

His efforts never really are. It is only speculation that counts here.

as reasonable speculation.

Edit for P.S. A correction to my previous post in dismissing the import of Current in this equation. As you've stated many times the system is broken, I believe we can both agree the media is a large part of that dysfunction, ergo Current does matter in this evaluation.

I believe he made these videos to make us a part of the exchange of ideas and dialogue on these issues, and to show he is part of it as well, not above it or us. And all we get from the same people here is the same political speculation we get from the MSM.

until Al Gore does and no one said Al Gore was above it.

I also thought you knew the difference between us; the people and the corporate media with their one way megaphone. When you're ready to eliminate political speculation as a fundamental right of the American People, why not just get rid of the Freedom of Speech clause and be done with it?

Whatever they be. But it figures coming from the same people who did nothing but harass him in 2004 until he turned them down. Is that really ALL some can think about here? I suppose it is, but in the process does anyone ever think of him? This is EXACTLY the same title based on nothing of fact I would expect to see in that MSM you all trash, tied to the launch of an innovative tv station that
offers so much more but gets no mention. So don't even try to explain this. It is blatant pushing. If you can't discuss his efforts based on their merits without infusing this baseless political speculation hype, then I think those who can't do so need to reflect a bit on what it is exactly that they "support." Unless of course, they are just political operatives doing their "jobs." And perhaps he now knows that too which is why he keeps that door ajar just a little for those who can't seem to think of anything in any other context. See, I can "speculate" too. He got a lot of new "members" yesterday who more than likely will not even participate unless it is to go on those threads and push him some more. How "supporting" to his goals of bringing back that "two way Democracy" that is actually one way to syncophants here. Either run or we don't support you. That is the overwhelming impression left on these blogs and I for one think it is sad when he may just be trying to move away from that hoping we would just talk to him.

was that harassment?

Also the dysfunctional corporate media, the Iraq War, the Global Warming crisis, the trashing of the Constitution, torture, illegal wiretapping, etc. independent of Al Gore running for President have indeed been discussed many times on this website,if you haven't noticed it's because you haven't looked.

The growing calls for Al Gore to run or be drafted is nothing but a common sense realization among many that he is the best qualified person for the single most important job in land that could alleviate or eliminate those abuses or threats to the people of the United States and the rest of Earth. This being a political website one would think to expect people debating, encouraging, cheering, cajoling or just begging for the rest to support who they believe to be the best qualified person for the job, I'm amazed you find that surprising.

As I've said before it's not over until it's over but if you want to quit and just leave the Presidency to whoever, because you think the system is broken and everybody that supports the person they believe is best qualified for the job are nothing but sycophants, have at it, I'm sure things will get better.

While I agree on one point regarding the title of the thread, it's really doesn't matter to you what the title is, if someone starts most any thread trying to drum up support for an Al Gore Presidency, your day isn't complete unless you can rain on it, that's my speculation.

Too bad others didn't.

Al Gore unequivocally took him self out of the race in an interview with Barbara Walters, the very day after he hosted SNL, to this point he hasn't done that for 2008.

And all the speculation and backbiting and competing with BS polls numbers between him and Clinton now is very OLD here. Here he is now a Nobel laureate with a world platform for change, and all we get from this venue is the same gossipy Bs. That is not where he is now and that is evident from his own words and his actions. But continue to live in your own world and continue to sit out all that is happening with his organizations that are unimportant to the syncophants here while you and others sit here dreaming. I intend to live in the here and now and look to the future supporting this good man without getting involved in all the same old crap he left behind and you all obviously have not.

unequivocally taken him self out of the race, but I doubt it because he hasn't and what about the BS poll numbers between him and rest of the candidates, are you saying they don't matter and or the race is now over?

And not caring much about his pithy civilian endevours?

You're constantly ripping everyone who *hopes* Gore runs, not just those who insist that he's obligated to do so. I understand the frustration that you feel people are looking for subtext in his words without looking at the words themselves. That said, why the hate?

Bottomline: if you only want him to run for your own reasons and cannot then support his efforts otherwise, I don't think you support him. That isn't hate, that is an opinion based on an observation that has been proven here by these threads over and over again.