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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:39 AM Original message |
Where Would Ms. Clinton Be Without Bill?? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. sexist dribble.... and i'm not even a HRC supporter |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Exactly |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. As one who has been involved in |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. that's a form of militant feminism, I can do without |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #33 |
44. That's not what I said, but of course, |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #44 |
147. That's not true |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #147 |
155. Cuke, you are obviously quite accurate... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. She was "awarded" a Senate seat? What do you get out of insulting the Demoratic |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #36 |
50. Yes, my dear, awarded. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. No, you have no respect for Democrats. You've insulted an entire state of NY Dems. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #54 |
73. I've stated my position quite clearly. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Yes, you've made your disdain for the Democratic base quite clear. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Again, incorrect. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #86 |
93. Now that Democratic party of NY state are "sheep posing as people"? |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #93 |
101. No, the Democratic Party of NY state |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. The Dem party of NY state is comprised of people - Democrats. You know, the people |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #105 |
110. That's not what you said. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Terminology? That ought to be good. |
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Ewellian (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
157. "The Machine" |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. Oh, don't be silly. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
151. As a New Yorker , I have to say that the party in this state is pathetic |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Too funny. We're radical feminists?!? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Per post 31, you aren't a feminist BECAUSE you married |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #53 |
65. That wasn't the point. It's USING the position of the spouse in the marriage for career benefit. n/t |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #65 |
90. SO, she was supposed to divorce Bill before she ran? |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #90 |
106. No, she was supposed to accomplish her success |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #106 |
115. She had a life and career before she married.. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #42 |
96. Me. A radical feminist. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
196. you are through the looking glass |
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Lochloosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
146. Accomplished NOTHING on her own....Really! |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
195. How does Hillary set women's rights back by about 50 years? |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
37. BS!! If the shoe was on the other foot we'd be saying the same thing. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. As a matter of fact you are wrong. I don't pre-judge |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
58. Either you're on the bus or you're off the bus |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
85. Not sexist dribble -- I'll take a shot at it |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
150. It wasn't Joan Collins BTW.It was Joan ("don't f88ck with me fellas" ) Crawford and it was Pepsi. |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
119. Amen to that... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
143. Beg your pardon? I believe the correct word is "drivel" for "dribble" is reserved for sippy cups? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. yes without bill she would NEVER have gotten that ivy league education |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
31. I believe she has her upper class parents to thank for that |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Upper class parents????? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Yes, parents and relatives who freely promoted "the lie" that Hillary was named after the |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Her father was a business owner and she grew up in |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #55 |
107. She has said that her parents paid her college tuition, but she had to pay for all extras |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #107 |
113. Don't you see? Anyone whose parents helped pay for college has no quaification to |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #55 |
135. I was referring to Hillary's mother |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #135 |
152. And I was referring to her parents |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. Why not ask: Where would Bill be without Hillary? |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Not a Hillary supporter and I agree 100% |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
68. Exactly!!! I'm sure she advised and supported him every step of the way! nt |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
136. I agree |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
141. thank you, that is the better question, in my opinion n/t |
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Ricki (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, but |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
5. Without Hillary, someone else would be #42. nt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
6. It's SEXIST to point out nepotism (when it benefits a woman) |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Nepotism? Try to learn what words mean before you use them, please. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. You obviously weren't an English major! |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Has Bil appointed her President? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Bill appointed her to cabinet level duties during his presidency, yes... |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. which has to do with her election in ny how? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. She was given the support of the party based on her family ties, that's how. nt |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
64. We would want to remember that because? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #64 |
81. Because it's an example of nepotism. I'm sorry that it's a painful memory...nt |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
102. No but the media has |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. And you're saying the electorate of NY elected her because of kinship? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Yep. That's exactly what I'm saying. In addition, she got the funding |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Wow, such little respect for the Democratic party. Is that you Bill O'Reilly? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. LOL. Having lost the "dictionary wars", Mondo Joe turns to "with us or against us!" |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. I'm pretty sure you're the only poster here who believes |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. That's usually what the "dictionary wars" are about. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #45 |
74. No, it's quite apparent HRC was promoted partially through "nepotism" |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. this would be true if bill clinton appointed her president, or someone appointed her president |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. No. Nepotism applies to jobs and privileges that fall short of the Presidency |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #26 |
47. Are you thinking rationally? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. You're right. * and HRC are the two most qualified individuals to be President |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #56 |
83. That you compare HRC with Bush* in terms of qualfications... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Both benefit from famous families. Sorry that this (accurate) comparison makes you uncomfortable... |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #87 |
100. And by that "logic" then no one from a family history of privilege |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #100 |
109. What a bizarre logic. We must ignore nepotism lest a qualified candidate slip through our fingers. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #109 |
121. Can you possibly keep to the argument at hand |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #121 |
124. No, I said both * and HRC benefit from nepotism |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #26 |
61. She's already won the primary,too? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
108. Sophistry! |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #108 |
116. *favoritism* (as in appointment to a job) based on kinship |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
59. I agree with the nepotism label - HRC got involved in the daily operations which is profoundly |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. The fact that you agree with it just confirms how wrong it must be. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #62 |
79. Awe, I value your opinion too MJ. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Deleted sub-thread |
ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
7. bullshit |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. exactly, without her man she is nothing. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:59 AM Original message |
Doesn't it just make you wanna smack the crap out of something? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
28. i generally want to smack the crap out of stupid people. i think bigots are stupid. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
13. She might still be Senator Clinton |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
148. Have you read her book? |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
15. Hello? Who said he'd even be Prez without her? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #15 |
51. True if only for the fact that Wifey was ACTIVELY cleaning up his sexual misconduct with his aides. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #51 |
69. " . . . Wifey . . . ?" |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #69 |
95. Psst! I did that tongue-in-cheek because I knew it would get somebody's goat. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #95 |
123. So clever. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #123 |
126. Awe, sure that silly term "wifey" is permanently part of my regular-use vocabulary. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
18. She'd be nothing? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. After all, she's just a woman. It's not as if she has an education or career or aspirations |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
38. It is definitely that |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
20. An Old Joke |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
21. She's referred to as Sen. Clinton now. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
34. Well put narrative! IMO, HRC is an Anti-Feminist from the entitled ranks of political royalty. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Yep. And you're a SEXIST for pointing that out. |
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Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
35. Without Bill, she'd be married to an ex-President, a NY Senator, and |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
43. bullshit. utter bullshit. and sexist as it's being pointed out. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. A little reading material. HRC seems to think being first lady is a qualification |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:23 AM Original message |
You linked to her biography. What's she supposed to do - leave a blank decade |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
71. So her status as Bill's wife is |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #71 |
77. No, you're not following, but I'll help you. |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. The Goldwater Girl |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #84 |
103. "Qualified to be president"? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #77 |
91. No one said she'd be "nowhere" without Bill; she just wouldn't be the heir apparent |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #71 |
89. I think you've got it! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #71 |
99. Hey, let's open the floodgates? Us gals can post "married to the boss" on all future resumes. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #99 |
160. I'll be gentle as I can: If you start a sentence with "us" gals can... |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
52. how about the reverse? Where would Bill have been without HRC? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. I can only say I am who I am and where I am in part because of my relationship |
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never_get_over_it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
60. Ok I sort of understand your point |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
63. Ridiclous. Anyone who looks at her biography |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Lots of women teach law and work in politics |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #63 |
76. You left out that stint |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #63 |
112. "she would have made a huge impact" but not in politics - she hasn't the personality. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
66. Where would Bill have been without Hilary? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
67. George * Bush got where he is because he was the MOST QUALIFIED |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
70. ooh..ooh....can I play? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Where would George W. Bush be without Karl Rove? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #75 |
94. W. Bush would be President without a famous dad! Realy he would! |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #70 |
78. Or W without HW? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #70 |
114. Yes, I find political royal dynasties very distasteful too. |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
82. Guess I Did Not See That Coming |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #82 |
88. You're still wrong. Part of the reason he was President was because of HER. |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #88 |
122. Well....Let's Compare Them Then? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #122 |
128. I don't know where you keep getting "the right" from. The people have the right to |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #128 |
133. The American People Have No Choice Unfortunately |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #133 |
134. If you think most Americans are so much more stupid than you, Democracy must be a |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #82 |
98. Would you have voted against Robert Kennedy ,were his |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #82 |
120. Again you miss the point. She was a highly accomplished person in her own right |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #120 |
125. So Fricking What? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. Nothing gives anyone the right to become president, other than winning more electoral |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #125 |
129. "entitlement of becoming President" |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #129 |
131. Tenuous? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #131 |
140. No, I fear that the M$M will turn medieval on her ass - the moment after HRC accepts the nomination. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #125 |
144. Melinda Gates WAS in a management position at Microsoft before marrying Bill Gates |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #82 |
132. The moment you felt the need to refer to her as "Ms. Clinton" |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #132 |
137. And You Refer To Her As HRC |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. Using initials is gender neutral.. |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #82 |
149. That's interesting. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
92. The same place Junior would be without Poppy. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Yeppers. Of course you're a SEXIST for pointing that out. :sarcasm: nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #97 |
104. In the same way I'm anti-semitic for not liking Lieberman. |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #92 |
156. At least she was accepted into law school, unlike Junior |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
117. Bill does seem to be her winning formula,everyone in voice chat talks of Bill back in the WH. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
118. You might ask the same question about Al Gore, or any other VP |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
130. Glad to see others called you on the sexism here. |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
139. IMHO... |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
142. Maybe the real question should be, "Where would 'Mr. Clinton' be without Hillary?" |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
145. I suppose a question just as valid would be... |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
153. Exactly, she married well |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #153 |
163. She was a success on her own before Bill got into politics. Could you at least get your |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #163 |
179. She was a successful elected politician before marriage????? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #179 |
186. She didn't marry into politics - she worked in a partnership that led to success |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #153 |
168. Deleted message |
Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
154. Well the first thing I noticed was her dropping the *Rodham* in her name...now |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #154 |
158. Hillary Rodham would probably have been a successful |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
161. I'm starting to get the impression that some folks just aren't totally behind Hillary. |
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MLFerrell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
162. In Arkansas where she belongs. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #162 |
164. Why would she be in Arkansas? She's not FROM there. |
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MLFerrell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #164 |
165. I didn't say she was from there, I said she belongs there. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. Why would she be there without Bill? |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. Do you expect a logical answer? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. No, but I have a hard time giving up on logic even where it probably can't be found. |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Indeed, fair enough. |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
167. Where would HE be without HER? |
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UGADUer (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
172. A functionary within the Republican Party. eom. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #172 |
173. Why would that be? Or do you just like to post bullshit with no link to reality |
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UGADUer (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #173 |
174. She worked for Barry Goldwater's campaign and was president of the Young Repubs |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #174 |
176. And she was a goldwater girl, too... |
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UGADUer (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #176 |
177. I think Bill pulled her into the Democrats; she's always been very conservative |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #177 |
180. Oh, so you're making assumptions about what you think was in her head... |
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UGADUer (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. I can't know what she thinks inside any more than you |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #181 |
189. Actually, it was the Vietnam war and the death of MLK that did it... |
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UGADUer (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #189 |
191. I read about her opinion on Vietnam in her book |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #177 |
182. Well you're wrong . She became a Democrat before she MET Bill Clinton. But why bother |
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UGADUer (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #182 |
183. I didn't make anything up; I'm just stating what I believe |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #183 |
184. Yes, you are totally making shit up - like when you say Bill "pulled" her into the |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
175. You don't think she's accomplished all she has on her own merit? |
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UGADUer (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #175 |
178. She's done almost nothing as Senator before running for President |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #178 |
190. How do you define nothing? |
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UGADUer (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #190 |
192. Approval ratings dont mean much in American politics |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. Votes do and she was re-elected for more than just her husband's name n/t |
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UGADUer (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #193 |
194. She outspent Jonathan Tasini 100:1 and was a former first lady |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
185. I'm really stunned at how uninformed some people in this thread are |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #185 |
198. Is anyone suggesting she would accomplish nothing? |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #198 |
199. Yes. Several, including the OP. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
187. Where would Mr. Obama be without Michelle? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #187 |
188. And where would Ted Kennedy be without JFK? |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
197. Anyone with their eyes opens knows where she would be or... |
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