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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:17 PM
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The scientific community backs "An Inconvenient Truth"...
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 10:20 PM by Labors of Hercules
No matter what a British Judge may say.

7 Australian Scientist give their impressions of "An Inconvenient Truth":

"...Over to the science experts

The most serious criticism of An Inconvenient Truth is that it is scientifically unsound. So The Age invited some of Australia's climate experts to watch a preview of the film, and rate its scientific merit out of five.

Dr Penny Whetton, CSIRO's Climate Change Impact and Risk group leader
"I was really quite moved, and given that this film was about a topic I deal with every day, this says something about how powerfully it communicates its message. Its scientific basis is very sound." 4.75 out of 5

Dr Michael Coughlan, head of the National Climate Centre, Bureau of Meteorology
"The science was generally solid, if simplistically treated. It was a bit long, but it was well produced and it kept my attention." 4

Dr Kevin Hennessy, principal research scientist, CSIRO Climate Impacts and Risk group
"The only minor quibble I had was that Gore implies that most of the climate trends and recent extreme events are due to human activities. It's not quite that simple … But easily the best documentary about global warming I've seen." 4.5

Dr Graeme Pearman, former CSIRO Director of Atmospheric Research turned consultant
"By and large, I didn't feel that the presentation overstated what we can say based on current scientific knowledge … it is not a doomsaying exercise because it is positive about what can be done." 4

Dr David Jones, head of climate analysis, National Climate Centre
"There were a number of simplifications but at no time did I feel that he was moving outside the climate science knowledge envelope." 4.9

Dr Barrie Pittock, former CSIRO Climate Impact group leader
"It is technically brilliant, remarkably accurate and up to date, and should be palatable to a wide audience." 5

Dr Kathy McInnes, senior research scientist, CSIRO Climate Impacts and Risk group
"There were bits and pieces that were glossed over … But I was surprised by how accurate the science was overall." 4.5

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/an-inconvenient-truth-or-gores-opportunism-you-decide/2006/09/08/1157222329040.html?page=2
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:19 PM
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1. So who's listening to a bunch of silly experts anyway....
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:10 PM
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2. to the greatest page with you
Wouldn't it be nice if we could get stuff like this recommended to the M$M? We saw the British judge's remarks all over everywhere but I'll bet this article never sees the light of day.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:16 PM
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3. K&R - nt
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:17 PM
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4. Don't blame the judge: An 'error' is not the same thing as an error
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 11:20 PM by tuvor
From scienceblogs.com:

There were nine points where (Justice) Burton decided that AIT differed from the IPCC and that this should be addressed in the Guidance Notes for teachers to be sent out with the movie.

Unfortunately a gaggle of useless journalists have misreported this decision as one that AIT contained nine scientific errors. Let me name some of the journalists who got it wrong: Sally Peck in the Daily Telegraph, Nico Hines in the Times, Mike Nizza in the New York Times, James McIntyre in the Independent, PA in Melbourne's Herald Sun, David Adam in the Guardian, Daniel Cressey in Nature, the BBC, Mary Jordan in the Washington Post, Marcus Baram for ABC News, and (of course) Matthew Warren in the Australian.

Let's look at what Burton really wrote (my emphasis):

Mr Downes produced a long schedule of such alleged errors or exaggerations and waxed lyrical in that regard. It was obviously helpful for me to look at the film with his critique in hand.

In the event I was persuaded that only some of them were sufficiently persuasive to be relevant for the purposes of his argument, and it was those matters - 9 in all - upon which I invited Mr Chamberlain to concentrate. It was essential to appreciate that the hearing before me did not relate to an analysis of the scientific questions, but to an assessment of whether the 'errors' in question, set out in the context of a political film, informed the argument on ss406 and 407. All these 9 'errors' that I now address are not put in the context of the evidence of Professor Carter and the Claimant's case, but by reference to the IPCC report and the evidence of Dr Stott.


If you noticed the quotation marks around 'error' then you are more observant than all of the journalists I listed above. Burton is not saying that there are errors, he is just referring to the things that Downes alleged were errors. Burton puts quote marks around 'error' 17 more times in his judgement. Notice also the emphasised part -- Burton is not even trying to decide whether they are errors or not. This too seems to have escaped the journalists' attention. (And yes, that was Bob Carter mentioned there.)

http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/10/an_error_is_not_the_same_thing.php
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:46 PM
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5. This just in Latest Breaking News
Even the government secretly acknowledges global warming, as shown by its reluctance to rebuild parts of the Gulf Coast.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3024855
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:26 AM
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6. Thanks for that!
If it were up to me, every barrier island should be evacuated and converted back to its natural state once a hurricane wipes it out.
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