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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:05 PM
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Contrary to the belief of many, I believe Bush knew exactly what he was saying today regarding WWIII
Bush is conditioning and preparing the public for military action against Iran.

Bush is inept for sure, but you can bet his words were written by and came from the Office of the Vice President.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:06 PM
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1. David Addington and John Yoo to be precise
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:41 PM
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16. I agree - and it is a bit frightening given he fells he needs the support of no one to go to war-n/t
n/t
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:07 PM
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2. missed it. what did he say? n/t
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:10 PM
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3. Paraphrased he said preventing Iran from getting info to build a nuke is necessary to avoid WWIII
I don't have the exact quote.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:11 PM
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4. Putin is going to be pissed if Bush is dumb enough to go all the way with Iran
Not just Putin but China as well. China and Russia have invested untold billions into Iranian oil fields. Imagine those oil fields being taken off-line in the advent of war between the US and Iran.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:12 PM
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5. Yes, imo he was trying to rile up his buddy Putin to toe the line. nt
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:20 PM
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9. If anything, Bush could easily cause Putin to issue even harsher warnings in retaliation. Then...
we'd be on a cycle of escalation, which is never good.
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rcsl1998 Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:13 PM
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6. During Yosemite Sam's First Illegitimate Term...
...Woolsey and other neo-con mouthpieces were spouting about WWIV (yes, World War FOUR!)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:15 PM
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7. As well as his staying in office after 2009, Januray of 2009
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:15 PM
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8. You'll get no argument from me.
I find it amazing, their brazenness.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:23 PM
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10. China and Russia have been watching the US bleed lives and $ in Iraq & Afghanistan...
... and the poster is right that both have contractual interests tied up in Iranian oil.

Bush knows this, or his advisors know this.

The comments today play up the obvious consequences of attacking Iran. Of course the Office of the Vice President would blame China and Russia for causing the attack in the first place.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:28 PM
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11. We've seen that his bumblings are often prescient....as they give clues to where
his "handlers" are pointing him and like the fool he is...he can't help but blab it out...but the Press that sucks up to him is so happy licking up to him...or afraid...or bought that they never can get out the REAL info to the people that he says EXACTLY what's going on from what he processes in his brain and bleats it out as a joke. The compliant Press pick up the joke but fail to get the message.

NPR had clips of his Presser today and I know DU'ers who saw him live were really worked up that he was totally deranged after today's performance. I wasn't able to view it live...but the NPR clips were enough I almost drove off the road.

Something must be done about him...15 Months and there will be nothing left to pick up the pieces!
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 06:32 AM
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22. Yes
like his comments about "catapulting the propaganda".

As Jon Stewart pointed out - Bush doesn't understand subtext, he just blurts out the obvious.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:28 PM
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12. exactly rght on CUE!
and if anyone does not realize it I say SADDAM HAD WMD!!!!

What is fucking crazy is the way GE's Timmy and others are playing this. Or not, apparently they WANT WWIII for profits.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:30 PM
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13. KO did a fine job of detailing all the idiocies present in Bush's comments today...
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:36 PM
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14. We ignore at our peril Bush's past behavior before he created another disaster....
Bush is not going to limp out of Washington DC as the most hated and least popular President of all time. Not Bush.

He will 'go for it' by trying something 'big' which he hopes will establish his place in history as something other than a monumental disaster.

It would be just like Bush to attack Iran at or before the presidential primaries kick off. Then strut around claiming only Republicans can protect the public.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:38 PM
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15. A big question is
Is he willing to wreck his party's fortunes for Iran? He can bomb Iran, piss off China, play brinksmanship with Putin, and the public would be nervous, but not especially outraged. But when gas rockets past $5 for parts unknown, every Republican officeholder is going to endure relentless hell from their constituents, right up to the moment they're dumped for anyone-but-a-republican.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 10:01 PM
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19. Which is why they have all those DINO's already in place.
"...every Republican officeholder is going to endure relentless hell from their constituents, right up to the moment they're dumped for anyone-but-a-republican."
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 06:13 AM
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21. Heh. True dat. n/t
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PFunk Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:55 PM
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17. Great. Now he nearly single-handedly restarted the Cold War.
I think we have lost the ME.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:23 PM
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18. yes, staying on the PNAC script
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 08:24 PM by RestoreGore
But he's still crazy.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 10:06 PM
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20. The crazy monkey keeps at it and pretty soon he'll have a mutiny on his four hands.
The Pentagon is about out of fresh soldiers and Marines.
The brass and men see that there is no end in sight to the madness in Iraq.
And now the monkey has a hard-on for war with Iran.

Best of all, most of the men and women in uniform will support the Constitution of the United States -- not the insane orders from a NAZI.
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 06:46 AM
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23. I agree, he was framing the debate.
He mainstreams the idea that there are only two choices; WWIII or attack Iran now.

It seems eerily familiar to the "mushroom cloud"/ take out Saddam now choice of a few years ago and it is a false choice.

Both world wars involved countries with militaries that could conquer and occupy entire nations. A nuclear Iran could fend off challenges from other nations relatively easy but would really not be in much of a position to threaten other nations with forcible takeover(except hapless Kuwait).

No, Bush's statement is classic fear-mongering.

On a lighter note perhaps WWWIII would be the better choice, each world war was concluded in less than 10 years, a damn site better than this intergenerational conflict that Bush seems to have his heart(snicker) set on. :sarcasm:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 06:48 AM
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24. When you start assigning sentience to Republicans, it's time to take a breather.
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