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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:38 AM Original message |
Birth Control Allowed at Maine Middle School |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. Would you rather they take a chance on getting pregnant? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. It doesn't seem as if the risk was terribly |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. It's likely the 14 year olds and even 15 year olds (there are always some in MS) |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. First of all, there are few 15 year olds in 8th grade. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. How do you know they're not being advised to use both? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. It's a prescription drug available to young children |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. You're assuming the nurse isn't evaluating this on an individual basis. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I'm assuming the nurse isn't watching each child swallow her pill |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Plenty of middle schoolers are mature enough to do that every day. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. That's baloney. A majority of kids that age |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. It's up to the nurse to make an individual decision based on the student. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
86. And they've got the maturity to adhere to parenthood? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. If the kid doesn't have pills, she won't swallow them any day. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. it's not mere speculation and bc pills in this situation |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
64. In CT kids can get treatment for STDs without parental consent. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yeah, only five have identified themselves as sexually active. |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. Mixed feelings on this one. I would support passing out condoms, but the pill? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. That sums it up well. |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Additionally, passing out the pill is probably riskier to this age group than passing out condoms. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
65. How do you know they're not advising the pill WITH condoms? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. So a parent should be able to deny their child birth control? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Pitiful that you can't see the difference. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. They're all medicine. |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Where did you pull that crap from? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. So are birth control pills. |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I see you didn't read my post before responding, but to be clear: condoms OK. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Yeah, yeah. |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Actually I have. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. I meant a good reason. |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. My reasons are better than yours. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
67. Are you also against this clinic giving out the morning-after pill (which is a |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
85. ... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Why is the pill okay for a 9th grader in high school |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. It's not ok for the school to give it to either without talking to the parents. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. High schools are doing this all over the country. It's nothing new. |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Pregnancy rates were way down in Maine without this, and this is not high school. n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. They're way down in Maine because of this -- in high school. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
87. Yes indeed. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
26. Yes, there are definite pluses and minuses to BCP |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
5. I would prefer my daughter talk to me |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. The pill is a prescription drug |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. What is so different about the medical risk of a 13 year old in middle school |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. delete |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
29. How about an 11 year old. This school has 6th graders. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. In this case, the logical place to draw the line is after elementary school, |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. I couldn't disagree more. n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Would the logical place be menarche? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
7. Kids know when it's safe to ask Mom and Dad for birth control |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Exactly. And a 12 year old who is risking getting pregnant |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Are you kidding? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #23 |
37. If a girl hasn't fully developed in size the consequences can be serious. n/t |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Pregnancy is usually serious in most women... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
57. You seriously don't know what you are talking about |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I'd say they are more dire if someone is dispending these kids... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
71. They're not just handing out pills. This is a county health center |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
91. Again, in this instance, the need for control is blinding people |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
16. I'm torn on this... |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Big reason I think the schoolboard did this: the school has a large % of Somali children. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Maybe it'll force parents to have a serious discussion with their kids... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Another possibility is that they'll arrange for little genital mutilation (FGM). |
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jojo54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
22. The point here is that some parents don't even want to deal |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
28. They should hand out hangover meds, needles, and matches for smokes as well |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #28 |
59. And that would protect them from the dangers of smoking or drinking -- how? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. If they are going to do it we may as well make it safe, like a smoking zone at school |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Smoking zones at school don't make kids safe. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
90. Give it time :) |
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JoDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
35. The pill is a prescription drug |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #35 |
53. High school nurses have been offering birth control prescriptions for years. |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
45. 1% admit to being sexually active... |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
54. I know for a FACT that middle school kids are having sex. One girl from my son's 8th Grade class |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
55. "without notifying parents "?? -- That's not was reported on my news! |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. That's very reasonable to me! With parental permission only from a CLINIC. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. So you think girls should be able to get abortions without parental permission |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
62. Condoms yes; birth control pills, no. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. They already have access to condoms and are taught how to use them. |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Condoms are great. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. The School Health Center distributes the prescription drugs! |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Do the parents get the prescription? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. I'm sure there are laws regarding that! My son couldn't pick up his prescriptions either as a minor. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Why should a teen be able to get an abortion without parental permission |
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #70 |
93. Hep C isn't a sexually transmitted disease but Hep B is. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. Condoms yes, pills, yes. Condoms alone don't provide the same pregnancy |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
73. Crap, that story left out one important detail: parental consent is needed to visit the clinic. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. The NYT's need to be sent a letter!! They're lying! |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. When are these journalists going to be called out for false reporting? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Media Matters calls them out all the time but that |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Your absolutely right, they attempt to demeen media matters every chance they get... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Thanks, mainegreen. It's been an interesting discussion anyway. n/t |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Lively. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
81. To be honest with you I think this is an issue that needs addressing, far too many |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
84. 17 pregnancies in 3 middle schools (not counting miscarriages or abortions) |
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Feron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
89. 17 years ago when I was in the 6th grade.. |
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