What has Congress been threatened with?

I keep asking the question. The behavior gets more strange by the day. Both sides of the aisle. There is something here under the surface. You have Reid going around his own:

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/18/reid-tries-to-shut-down-dodds-hold/

I’m a bit confused here. This just doesn’t happen. So I chatted with someone I know with extensive Hill experience, who said:

“I can’t think of one time when Harry Reid went around his own. It’s just not normal for a leader to do that to his own side. Sometimes you’ll go around Republicans, sometimes they’ll use holds to be “spoilers,” but that happens to the other guy. You just don’t do it to one of your own.”

You have Pelosi and the Armenian non-binding genocide bill - just strange.

You have John Warner double crossing Sen. Webb and his strange statement:

But then, Warner explained how officials at the Pentagon had convinced him that Webb was wrong to try to extend troops' rest times. "I say to my good friend from Virginia, I agree with the principles that you've laid down in your amendment, but," he concluded, "I regret to say that I've been convinced by those in the professional uniform."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/19/AR2007091902153.html

You have McConnell et al outright lying about a 12 year old boy. Outright. And he acts like it doesn't matter. I know this has been typical rethug behavior of late, but I still find it very strange for any sort of person to do. Lie about spies or other politicians, or all the rethug criminals, but not a 12 year old boy.

And Rep. Stark - as much as I admire him and agree 100% with him and his comments about the emperor, he seemed to be at the highest point of frustration - like a release of tension.

And the endless obstruction by rethugs/suck up by dems circus with an 11% approval rating.

So, again, I rhetorically ask, what has Congress been threatened with? More weaponized Anthrax? More use of the telecoms to spy on political opponents? More don't cross us 'cause all your votes belong to us? More don't look directly at the emperor or you will be arrested? More "This ain't my first Rodeo?" from the emperor who is afraid of horses?

America is waiting. Impatiently.

That is the way I feel.

I think that there are just no more honorable souls in politics these days. Pretty much only the wealthy can buy office, which makes me think that rich people truly do suck. No honor or character, just money.

They answer to whoever controls the purse-strings. I'm afraid I no longer trust anything a politician might say. If their mouths are moving...they're lying.

FUCK NADER.

Fuck Democracy!

People shouldn't be able to just "run" for president, and anyone who considers it is evil evil evil!!!!



(pay no attention to the fact that bush stole 50,000 black votes for Gore minimum through bogus "caging lists" and then the Supreme Court made a bizarre one time ruling that only covered that election in Florida)

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Sorry for the pisser attitude, but tornadoes in October, melting icecaps, the drought and burning of the rain forests, the southeast running out of water. Things aint so good.

The national October average for the past 10 years has been abut 2 per day

http://www.weather.com/blog/weather/8_13682.html

Most of the Republcians are not supporting it, and enoguh Democrats have pulled their support to make it obvious that it will not pass.

Who suddenly thought this needed to be legislated?

The Armenian-Americans have been pushing for it for a long time.

unless someone can make a case for why past history needs to be dredged up.

How the spying by the telecoms companies started before 911 only a few weeks after bush took office. And the one executive that did not go along with the program wound up charged with 11 counts of insider trading.

Some refer to it as "they're really just the same party." But I think that's an inaccurate simplification.

Obviously, there is something more fundamental that both parties are in agreement on. What it is, I have no idea. Nevertheless, what we're seeing in the bizarre events you listed have to be nothing more than just "something" put together to consume the media news cycles. The reason that they are becoming so bizarre and outlandish lately is that this is what is required these days to successfully dominate a news cycle (or, better, several news cycles.)

A GOP congressman sexing up the little boys, paying undercover cops so they can fellate the cop, even a murdered intern at a campaign office just doesn't cut it anymore. That's all become pedestrian, everyday news. So we'll see even more outlandish, yet oddly never-seriously-challenged behavior (slime a 12-year-old, perfected jews, phony soldiers, etc.)

So while all the talking heads, our designated "official citizens who do our thinking for us," are spending all their time talking about the latest circus act, everyone's attention has been successfully diverted.

But, from what? What is it that members of both parties either know about or are partaking in that must be shielded from scrutiny so badly that we're getting almost daily doses of manufactured outrage over statements and actions that simply must be things contrived solely for their demand for attention (and news cycles?)

Sucks, huh? I'm ready for a revolution.

Please don't pull a Richard Perle and label me an anti anything but here is my take - -

Congress has lost control for three reasons.

1: Bush has told them all to go to hell with his unrestricted "Wartime President powers" thus they are powerless to do anything really to stop him from spending and attacking.

2: Even if Congress wanted to stop the Pres from doing the hollow eyed crap that he is doing there are larger forces at work that control the congress too such as the AIPAC (Who single handedly started the Iraq war to push their Biblical land ownage agenda(from the Euphrates to the Nile)), you have all of the corporate interests that control the money in our country and each one of them have a congressman of their own (bought and paid for). Each Congressman is suppossed to pursue the rights and needs of his state and then have time to pursue the needs of the country as a whole. I DO NOT THINK OUR CONSTITUTION WAS SET UP FOR US TO BE AN IMPERIAL POWER GLOBETROTTING, WARRING AND FINANCIALLY BLUDGEONING THE WORLD WITH THIS NEOLIBERALISM CRAP.

3: The White House Controls the Courts because it controls their budget. I remember a quote from one of the Federalist papers that read something like this. ~Each branch of our Government is set up to check the other however if the Executive branch were ever to obtain control of the Judicial branch it would be a unstoppable force that would tear the country apart.

It is not just that our Congress is arguing amongst itself it really can't do a whole lot because the laws it makes arent enforced anyway. Judges are too afraid they will wind up with no staff or sitting on a bench in a courtyard instead of a courthouse.

The people dont support the representatives anymore. Democracy is more than pushing a button every 4 years. Also, back to the Zionist element, we are getting an element in our Capitol that I am really afraid of. EXTREMIST RELIGIOUS ELEMENTS in Washington are going to eat our country if were not careful.

"SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE" is a rule and needs to be enforced at all costs.

Many of our problems seem to stem from support of Israel.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10052007/transcript1.html

I have my religion and I believe in Israel but all of that will transpire in time and it will not be at the hand of man but with the hand of god.

People need to read an Author named Arnold Toynbee He wrote a couple of books named "Civilization on Trial" and "World in the West" there are many descripts of the current events we face today although it was written six decades ago.

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You also have Howard Dean strangely silent most of the time.

IMHO, its the money, the golden handcuffs. Nearly 100% of GOP donations have switched to Dems in DC. Its obvious the corporate donors and DLC leaders in Congress are now in charge. Reid and Pelosi are weak, B -Team leaders. Dem leadership there is no longer part of the Democratic Party. They've managed to convince themselves that whenever they get a "bigger" majority or have a Dem in the White House, they can go back to being Democrats again. Not so.

Keep in mind, Dem leadership in DC is NOT the Democratic Party. They're just a subsidiary, a branch office.

After arriving at the Naval Observatory the conversation went something like...

You guys both need to support what ever it is we're wanting to do. It would be a shame to see a terrorist attack in Las Vegas or San Francisco, they might use a suitcase nuke. If you think I don't have people capable of that or worse, then try me. Oh, and Harry? Go fuck yourself, you too Nancy.

But then again I'm a delusional looney leftist.

-Hoot

verizon. Maybe it is just corruption. Maybe they are just bought. and for such a low price. I would love to do a corruption check on the dems who vote with republicans. Never occurred to me before, but maybe it is just money.

since the bush crime family took over the reagan presidency, and before, when they offed JFK.

The mafia tactics are such that they will do whatever they need to to gain compliance. The Dems are just falling into line, as the mafia insisted they do.

Fuck the entire bush crime family. I hope they all rot in hell.

Remember that? I'm sure the Congress does.

There's ample evidence to indicate complicity.

"The Democratic Leadership Council's agenda is indistinguishable from the Republican Neoconservative agenda," http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_DLC_agenda_undistinguishable_from_Neocon_0813.html

Let's just look at the cold, hard facts about the DLC and its record. The DLC has pushed, among other things, the war in Iraq and "free" trade policies, using bags of corporate money to buy enough Democratic votes to help Republicans make those policies a reality. They have chastised anyone who has opposed those policies as either unpatriotic or anti-business -- even as a majority of Americans now oppose the war in Iraq, oppose the DLC's business-written trade deals, and are sick of watching America's economy sold out to the highest corporate bidder. Additionally, in brazenly Orwellian fashion, the DLC has also called its extremist agenda "centrist," even though polls show the American public opposes most of their agenda, and supports much of the progressive agenda. http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0727-32.htm

The progressive movement has not just threatened this message monopoly -- it is undoing it. Through MoveOn, the rise of popular documentaries, blogs, think tanks, etc. It's not just that we talk about real values and innovative strategies. It's because we're talking, period, that the centrists feel threatened.

Hence the DLC's vicious attempts to discredit the movement. And that's what they want. They don't seek to win an argument over policy. They seek to destroy the credibility of their opponents and restore their message monopoly. http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=721

This is why the DLC is dangerous. For all their claims of supposedly wanting to help Democrats, they employ people like Marshall Wittman who specifically try to undermine the Democratic Party, even if it means he has to publicly defecate out the most rank and easily-debunkable lies. They reguarly give credence to the right wing's agenda and its worst, most unsupportable lies. They are the real force that tries to make sure this country is a one party state and that Democrats never really challenge the Republicans in a serious way. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-is-so-dangero_b_13640.html

DLC Watch, the wicked shall not escape justice http://dlcwatch.blogspot.com

Without a doubt, the DLC is the most fundamentalist organization within the caucus, the most ideologically rigid, and the most destructive to the progressive cause.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/5/24/1712/23448

These DLC types are amazing, they really are. Their pathology is unique; they all secretly worship the guilt-by-association tactics of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove, but unlike those two, not one of them has enough balls to take being thought of as the bad guy by the general public.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11275627/the_low_post_democrats_walk_themselves_to_the_gallows