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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 09:18 AM
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Danner: Bush and Aznar's "pithy playlet" demonstrates Bush's clumsiness and the limits of his power
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 09:35 AM by BurtWorm
Excellent analysis of "Downing Street Memo II" by Mark Danner in the NY Review of Books. (The entire transcript of the Bush/Aznar exchange is here):

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20770

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It is on this point—the need of the Europeans to have a UN resolution justifying force, and thus a legal, or at least internationally legitimate, war, and the deep ambivalence among Bush administration officials about taking "the UN route"—that much of the drama of the Crawford transcript turns, making it into a kind of playlet pitting the sinuous, subtle, and sophisticated European, worried about the great opposition in Europe, and in Spain in particular, to an American-led war of choice with Iraq ("We need your help with our public opinion," Aznar tells Bush), against the blustery, impatient, firing-straight-from-the-hip American cowboy. Bush wants to put out the second resolution on Monday. Aznar says, "We'd prefer to wait until Tuesday." Bush counters, "Monday afternoon, taking the time zone differences into account." To Bush's complaint that the UN process was like "Chinese water torture," Aznar offers soothing understanding and a plea to take a breath:

Aznar: I agree, but it would be good to be able to count on as many people as possible. Have a little patience.

Bush: My patience has run out. I won't go beyond mid-March.

Aznar: I'm not asking you to have indefinite patience. Simply that you do everything possible so that everything comes together.


Aznar, a right-wing Catholic idealist who believes in the human rights arguments for removing Saddam Hussein, finds himself on a political knife edge: more than nine Spaniards in ten oppose going to war and millions have just marched through the streets of Madrid in angry opposition; he is intensely concerned to gain a UN resolution making the war an internationally sanctioned effort and not just an American-led "aggression." Bush responds to his plea for diplomacy with a rather remarkable litany of threats directed at the current temporary members of the Security Council. "Countries like Mexico, Chile, Angola, and Cameroon have to know," he declares, "that what's at stake is the United States' security and acting with a sense of friendship toward us." In case Aznar doesn't get the point, he describes to the Spaniard what each nation will suffer if it doesn't recognize "what's at stake":

<Chilean President Ricardo> Lagos has to know that the Free Trade Agreement with Chile is pending Senate confirmation, and that a negative attitude on this issue could jeopardize that ratification. Angola is receiving funds from the Millennium Account that could also be compromised if they don't show a positive attitude. And Putin must know that his attitude is jeopardizing the relations of Russia and the United States.


What is striking about this passage is not only how crude and clumsy it is, with the President of the United States spouting threats like a movie gangster—he presumably wants the Spaniard to convey them directly to the various leaders—but how ineffective the bluster turned out to be. None of these countries changed their position on a second resolution, which, in the event, was never brought before the Security Council to what would have been certain defeat. Bush, in making the threats, did the one thing an effective leader is supposed always to avoid: he issued an order that was not obeyed, thus demonstrating the limits of his power. (The Iraq war itself, meant as it was to "shock and awe" the world and particularly US adversaries, did much the same thing.)

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 09:28 AM
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1. And it had nothing to do with patience, did it?
Saddam Hussein capitulated to every demand the UN made. The only thing he couldn't provide, in the end, was the absurd logical construct of proving he didn't have something.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 09:29 AM
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2.  Bush: I am an optimist, because I believe that I'm right. I'm at peace with myself.
<more from Danner's article>
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There is a difference between being sure and being right. Bush's conviction, here as elsewhere, came not from an independent analysis of the facts—of the interests and intentions of the nations involved—but from the wellspring of faith. He has confused rhetoric, however uplifting, and reality. Aznar, the sophisticated European, comments wryly on this. It is the most Jamesian moment in the playlet of Crawford; one can almost see the subtly arched eyebrow:

Aznar: The only thing that worries me about you is your optimism.

Bush: I am an optimist, because I believe that I'm right. I'm at peace with myself. It's up to us to face a serious threat to peace.


It is worrying, as Aznar remarks, to rely on optimism grounded only in belief. The Spaniard knows that gaining that second Security Council resolution, and thus the critical international legitimacy for the war, will be very hard; in many nations, launching a war against Iraq, particularly before the UN inspectors have finished their work, is deeply unpopular. Faith cannot replace facts, nor can a historic sense of mission. Both may be personally comforting—they plainly are to George W. Bush—but they don't obviate the need to know things.

Bush came to office a man who knew little of the world, who had hardly traveled outside the country, who knew nothing of the practice of foreign policy and diplomacy. Two years later, after the attacks of September 11 and his emergence as a self-described "war president," he has come to know only that this lack of knowledge is not a handicap but perhaps even a strength: that he doesn't need to know things in order to believe that he's right and to be at peace with himself. He has redefined his weakness—his lack of knowledge and experience—as his singular strength. He believes he's right. It is a matter of generations and destiny and freedom: it is "up to us to face a serious threat to peace." For Bush, faith, conviction, and a felt sense of destiny —not facts or knowledge—are the real necessities of leadership.<2>
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 09:37 AM
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3. google: 'dr renana brooks and bush' she explains this all very well, and click on th blue link in
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 09:46 AM by sam sarrha
my signature....it is simple...

he is a wet brain alcoholic drug addict, also suffering from fetal alcohol syndrome.. not to mention whaT SEEMS LIKE a psychopathy.. he cares not AT ALL who/how many die or suffers from his actions. he has mocked the fear of a woman whom the
pope personally called him twice.. to commute Carla's death sentence..

he is MENTALLY ILL, possibly full blown bat shit crazy.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:50 AM
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6. Whatever he is. he is a pathetic excuse for a human being
let alone for a "president."
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 09:43 AM
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4. "My patience has run out."
Its all about what the petulant boy-king wants.
I have thought that frequent refering to Bush as a narcissist or sociopath was a tad over the top.
Maybe not.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 09:47 AM
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5. click on the blue link in my signature
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:08 PM
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7. kick
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:53 AM
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