Mukasey nominee why would the democrats endorse him?

I am so sick of our spinless senators..we have another Albert!

Mukasey Endorses Expansive Presidential Authority
Nominee says Bush entitled to ignore federal surveillance law.

Mukasey is unacceptable. Keisler is unacceptable, and undoubtedly even worse than Mukasey. They don't confirm Mukasey and Keisler stays on. They confirm Mukasey and they've confirmed someone not fit to serve as AG. What would you do?

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And this actually doesn't have anything to do with impeachment. Even if the House initiated impeachment tomorrow, they'd still have to deal with this.

...which makes it unacceptable to some here, and the problem is that you base your observations on reality instead of fantasy.

Threaten to hold up the Mukasey nomination in committee forever. Stop acting as though they owe bush* ANY deference whatsoever -- he's a lame duck with a 29% approval rating, fer gawdsakes! Two thirds of the country is fed up with him!

TELL him what to do! Congress owes bush* NOTHING. Treat him with the same contempt that he's shown Congress for the past 6 1/2 years. Give him a list, TELL him to pick one -- period.

Not that our Dem leaders have either the guts or the spine to such a thing, but that's what I'd do.

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It's simple. Reject Mukasey and you get Keisler. Keisler is WORSE than Mukasey. Leaving Keisler in is a bad option. Confirming Mukasey is a bad option.

And yes, bush can delay naming a new nominee, and keep Keisler in for months longer. In case you're unaware of it, one of the things they're worried about is that Keisler has the shredders going 24/7.

The "essential problem" is that the Dems have refused to act like an opposition party all along. So now they're boxed in.

Frankly, I really don't much give a shit anymore. Their fecklessness has made the bed that we ALL have to sleep in. We're not going to get our Constitutional Republic back any time soon, if ever. A criminal syndicate has been allowed to take over our government with bipartisan consent; THAT'S the bottom line, THAT'S the "essential problem".

Everything else is just theater.

Which, as far as I am concerned, is the stance of any AG nominee who won't committ to those standards on torture and detention. So the acting AG is running the shredders as fast as he can? And what makes anyone think that Mukasey won't? His strong committment under pressure to justice and the rule of law, as so patently evident in his testimony? :sarcasm: Meanwhile, by "confirmation" the Senate gives its' stamp of approval that the nominee is within the norms of what is acceptable in a US official in that position. Is that what we want the Dems to vote aye on?

in as Acting AG. There's simply no way around that. I recognize that people prefer to ignore that part of the equation, but denial doesn't really work here.

I addressed that directly in my post. My point is different than yours. If we have a dangerous, unacceptable AG, at least he does not bear the imprimatur of Senate confirmation. I do not see putting a dangerous, unacceptable AG in with Senate confirmation as a remedy. The opposite, in fact.

No, neither is a "good" choice. The question is whether or not we give one of those bad choices the legitimacy of confirmation.

At least stand in opposition for once. Also, they completely capitulated on using this nomination to force compliance on all of those subpoenas. Our leadership is a shameful bunch of complicit hacks.

He was much more open and middle of the road on day one.

Then on day two, everything changed. All that Unitary Executive bullshit. That is not what the Founding Fathers of our country had in mind. They need to quit rewriting the Constitution to suit their needs.

The Dems in Congress must say NO to Mukasey, he is quite obviously not his own man, and it's obvious someone is able to make him change his tune, which is exactly what we DON'T need in an AG.

They screwed up with Roberts and Alito, I would have hoped they'd learned a lesson from that, but I'm afraid our spineless wimp Dems will just go along with it.

Really, how can you tell that the GOP isn't still the majority party? They still seem to get everything they want. Nancy and Harry CAN do things to make them tow the line, but they aren't. They want to be bipartisan, fair, and compromising. And by doing so, the only thing they're compromising is the trust of the voters who put them in their positions.

Nancy and Harry should be ashamed of themselves, they are allowing the criminals in D.C. to continue their illegal activities, even though they act like they're going to hold them responsible. When? When? This year? Next? After they leave office?

Get off your fat asses, Nancy and Harry, and do your jobs or step down and let someone qualified, responsible, and brave do it. For a change.

If they don't confirm Mukasey, they get Keisler, who's not only at least as bad as Mukasey, but is a BFEE insider. They're faced with two bad options, and have to choose between them.

What would you do?

But, who appoints them. It is a NO WIN until Bush is gone. So impeachment gets more support now.

What we are witnessing is the power of the Executive branch of our government, stretched to or beyond its actual limits. The only remedy is impeachment, and this hearing serves to get more Congress members on that bandwagon. They see this more clearly than outsiders.

I'm just frustrated because you seem to be the only other person here who gets exactly what kind of a bind this is. I've been doing a lot of reading about Keisler- some through your links, and I can't imagine a worse person to be AG. I don't think there is a worse person.

confirmation. We seem to forget how much power the Executive has.

nomination. Talk about sending a message.

I also wonder if a Special Counsel was about to be appointed??

Dem party who moved over to the other side of the aisle. (or they were already there, and other things were more imporant at the time.)

we will continue to pay and obey. There is no limit to how much government and control the taxpayers will accept. We're lucky they let us keep a few pennies and a few hours of spare time until we have to go back to our jobs and work our asses off, paying for their failed promises/lies.

described as "the Dem's choice". That gets me more than if the story were: "He is terrible and somewhat dangerous but we have to vote him in because the option is......".

There is no good option here. Period.

about getting rid of Keisler?

about Keisler.

if you don't confirm Mukasey?

What the Senate is being asked to do is confirm a Bush nominee, not to marry the guy!

That is how you escape this nomination and get a proper and qualified nominee.