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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:50 AM
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Spirit of San Diego - Stadium becomes party atmosphere for refugees
Source: KUSI TV

What a contrast to how refugees in New Orleans were deserted at the Superdome....Can we please put whoever organized San Diego's relief effort in charge of FEMA?



Read more: http://www.kusi.com/home/10707916.html?video=pop&t=a
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:09 AM
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1. Now that's an intelligent thought. Who was it?
I did enjoy hearing tonight (on 20/20?) that it's now federal law to include pets in evacuation plans. I think that has a lot to do with the way people are feeling.

Not letting them starve or die of thirst seems to be working well, also.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 10:08 AM
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10. Not just feeling better, people often won't evacuate without their pets,
so this is saving lives. Fewer people are staying behind and ignoring evacuation orders.

Just about every shopping center and large school around here has been converted to a makeshift shelter for people, pets, large animals or all of the above. Yesterday I saw people wandering down a major street in a non-rural area with their horse, just looking for a place to go. The public is now being asked to shelter horses in backyards!
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forintegrity Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 05:15 AM
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2. Three reasons:
in my book:
1.) Republican Governor (it's ALL about party lines)
2.) Affecting white, rich Americans(not poor, AFRICAN Americans)
3.) The fire is happening close to an election year
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 05:28 AM
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3. Three reasons:
in my book:
1) The lights are actually on in QualComm
2) The TOILETS aren't overflowing
3) People aren't lying dead in their wheel-chairs from the heat or lack of water

No need to panic folks - The National Guard isn't going to shoot you in the street as you look for relief.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 08:12 AM
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5. They passed out M16's to help the people in NOLA......

:cry:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 08:19 AM
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6. what a picture of a third-world country dictator exercising his power ...
oh, wait ... that's in English, with US plates ...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:46 AM
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9. nevermind
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 10:22 AM by DS1
possibly too dark

:yoiks:
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Mutineer Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 07:40 AM
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4. NoLa was closed off to citizens because of the flooding & the Nat'l Guard
In Cali, people can drive up to the Stadium, drop off clothes, food, water, etc. for the evacuees and there are areas open that are safe there--in NoLa there was no where to go. The two really are not comparable as much as some here would like to compare them. NoLa was an island in essence, that no outside help could reach. And yeah, absolutely the Bushies screwed the pooch in not getting help there sooner or having decent supplies there to begin with. In SoCal, the lights are on, the plumbing works, the supplies were there and continue to flow in. Big difference and thank God and everybody else who is there to help these evacuees for that.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 10:11 AM
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12. You're right but the people
in New Orleans were still abandoned by the bushit government..it's almost as if they wanted New Orleans to flood and the people there to be driven out so they could get a new fascist governor in the then governor's place.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 08:56 AM
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7. yeah, the stench from a city with a thousand corpses tended to put a damper on the festivities...
... back in NOLA.


:argh:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:08 AM
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8. These stories are getting pretty disgusting
Only slightly veiled racism, really, the way they're playing on the news.

The main difference is clear:

The stadium has access to supplies and working infrastructure. That was not the case in New Orleans. If Qualcomm had no electricity, no working toilets, and no food or water, we'd see the exact same thing unfold.

It's easier when the city is not fucking flooded. These stories (not the OP, but their sudden proliferation on the news shows) are just another little heel in the back of the people of New Orleans, a delayed kick to really make them feel like despicable assholes for making us all care. "So poor and so black," you know...
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 10:12 AM
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13. I blame the federal government, not the people of NO, for what happened there.
Much as I fault city officials in San Diego for many things, they can take much of the credit for being prepared for handling evacuees at the stadium. An inside source tells me this has been in the planning stages for years, since the Cedar Fire. It's only short-term care, true, but far better than what we've seen in past fires here, and certainly better than how NO victims were treated. They should never have been sheltered in a place subject to flooding or being cut off, but also there was not even a few days of adequate emergency supplies stocked there - an unforgiveable lapse. How many died merely for lack of drinking water?
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 10:10 AM
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11. You know what...that is just completely irresponsible fucking journalism.
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 10:12 AM by tjwash
I was at the stadium yesterday and it was far from a party atmosphere. There are people walking around in tears that don't know where their fucking kids are, and haven't seen or heard from them in days. There are shell shocked retired folks walking around like zombies that just watched everything that they worked their entire lives for go up in smoke. There are people sitting around dazed that have not yet got used to the idea that the only roof they are going to have over their heads for the next year is the 89 camry they drove over there on.

Un. Fucking. Believable.

Can't say I'm surprised though. Can't say I am surprised that it stirred up tons of vitriol and hatred on the dozen or so threads on DU that this bullshit story has spawned as well.

Oh...and NOLA survivors. We feel your pain, but now is not the time to get in to a "yeah well WE had a bigger disaster than you so there" oneupmanship contest okay? There will be plenty of time for that in the coming months.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 10:15 AM
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14. Thanks for reporting the real story..
isn't that what DU is for? And don't pay any attention to those posts of vitrol because most of the people here have compassion and empathy for what Californians are going through.

Are you and your family okay? I called my sister last night in Chula Vista and she said she can go outside and smell smoke but the fires are not around her area of that city.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 10:38 AM
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16. We are OK. Thanks. The smoke is much worse here today by Mission Trails.
I coughed for about 20 minutes after I woke up this morning (first sleep since sunday by the way), and there are bigger chunks of ash falling all over everything right now. We are preparing for a 1-2 punch as the Witch fire is heading south toward Miramar, and the Harris is heading northwest through Spring Valley.

That could get ugly, as those two areas between are the major population centers for the county.

I'm glad your family is OK. I have a lot of family and friends in Chula Vista as well, and was worried as hell about it. :hug:

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 11:12 AM
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18. You Poor things! Scarey
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 11:29 AM by zidzi
as shite just with the smoke all around. Have you been working to keep fires at bay..is that why no sleep since Sunday?

I lived all over San Diego County back in the '70's and '80's for 15 years but I'm here in New York right now so all I can do is imagine strongly what you all are going through. :hug:

I saw Encinitas on the Fire Map last night and that didn't look good with all the Red around..all up and down the North County Coast and inland which is mostly where I hung out. I hope the Santa Anas stop soon!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 10:15 AM
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15. Perhaps discrimination? - White vs. Black - Rich vs. Poor, nah, ya think???
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 10:53 AM
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17. actually, just different scenarios: there's food, the power is on, the city itself is functional...
Of course, the journalists are already up to their old tricks.

Brace yourselves for a million invidious comparisons. They gotta keep twisting that knife.
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