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HowHasItComeToThis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:21 PM Original message |
MSNBC HARDBALL, PLAME SAYS IT WAS TREASON |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Accusing the pResident of Treason is kid stuff. Calling Tweety a "right-wing tool" to his face... |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yep, that really got to ol tweety |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. His wife will confirm that Tweety's tool bends to the left. n/t |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
49. DID Valerie Plame Wilson say, "treason"? eom |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
68. ANOTHER RIGHT-WING NOISE MACHINE WITCH HUNT!!!! |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. These quotes? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Ms. Plame credits Mr. Matthews |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Here's to Valerie Plame and Stephanie Miller. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. If they'd only outed her, it might not be, although still illegal. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
61. Bush and Cheney have defined Iran as the "enemy." |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
87. When Plame's cover was blown, BJ was also blown as Joe Wilson said. Her fed campaign contributions |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. and what has Congress done about this? Absolutely nothing /nt |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Madame Speaker is busy with other things... |
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antonialee839 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
53. Yeah like making sure Pete Stark |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. I was expecting Matthews to really sound off on Maher Friday night |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Let's please put quotation marks around "manly" -- there's nothing manly about chickenhawks. :) |
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Roy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
41. Mathews only dislike this war because it's a drag on Bush. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. And to think that John Walker Lynd is in jail for life. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. To think that would be wrong. |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Actually he got 20 year, not life... |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
48. I knew that. I should have been more careful. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. The Karmic rubber band is stretching so, so, so far, that when it snaps back -- holy shit. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. I prefer to think of it as the Karma Fairy prepping by |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
11. Pre-911 it would have been treason, but post 911 the decider writes and interprets |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
15. Recommended! Details please. |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. The RWing Assholes kept spewing that V. Plame was not |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
57. self-delete. nt |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
16. Yes, and Schuster steals... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
52. Yes you did!!! |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
82. i want to scream my head off... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. You have some dedicated fans. |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #85 |
94. thank you honey:) |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. We're behind you. |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. that means everything:D |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 05:10 AM Response to Reply #82 |
91. if it makes any difference to you -- |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. thank you so much |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
18. Is there a link to Plame saying it was treason? Does she name names? nt |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. Only those witness to or a part of it could name names. I doubt they'll cooperate, EVER. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
19. I disagree. |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Making a speech critical of the gov't is treason? |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. You misread. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
88. Treason |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Treason |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Those are nice general definitions of the term "treason." |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Ahmed Chalabi, Curveball, Prince Bandar and numerous Mohamed Does in Arabia? |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I certainly wouldn't put treason past them. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
58. I Tend To Disagree With You On That |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Well, that would be very unprecedented. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
83. There Is Always A Case That Makes A Precedent |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Outing a covert CIA operative |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. That's not what the word "betray" there means, though. |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Defining an "enemy" is not mandatory. Nor is the term ... |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Proving that PNAC wishes to destroy America |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I didn't bring up PNAC. That's a document, not a group. n/t |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Who on Earth told you that? |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. You are incorrect- they are indeed a "group." Of madmen and women. |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Theoretically. I can agree with both you and BB above. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. Not "theoretically." |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. PNAC is a document put together by the people you have named. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. PNAC is not a document. I have no idea who told you that. Perhaps you'll believe wiki. |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Wiki does not the world make. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Okay, fine, |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Damn, you're good. Best I've seen. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. I call that a bargain, |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
76. You're arguing that it isn't treason because no other country directly gained from the actions |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. No, that's not my argument. |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. I disagree |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. The secrecy act certainly does not account for that, and he ought be prosecuted |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Well, by definition our intelligence services spy on our enemies... |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. And that's half the case. Simply "aiding the enemy" isn't enough. |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Sure. But if the real reason... |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Certainly that would be treason. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. I think the more important discussion results from interpolation of the situation. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I can completely agree with that. |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. ........ |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. You're right that they've qualified intent to betray |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
84. V. Plame Would Agree With You |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. Depends on how deep you want to dig. |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
74. It's still illegal to out covert operatives |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Indeed it is. nt |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
81. It is arguable that the administration has done both. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
89. I'm sure Plame knows far more than she is able to tell us... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 05:40 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. True. n/t |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
22. george senior's opinion of those who expose cia agents..... |
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cureautismnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. If we had any semblance of a competent 4th estate |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
38. Right on the money! WHAT ELSE is outing a SPY??? |
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HootieMcBoob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
50. And Tweety didn't disagree! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. There's not really a way he could possibly disagree, is there? |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
55. Hell yeah, it was treason. But fuck Hardball, MSNBC, and all the treason-complicit corporate media. |
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benld74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
56. When I read novaks column that day, I said treason too!!! |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
59. She said she wasn't allowed to see the damage report done by |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
60. I wonder when she'll apologize for that statement. |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Why would she appologise Bobbo? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Why do any of the truth tellers apologize???? |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
66. That was beautiful.....nt |
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blossomstar (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
93. Oh my, go girl. |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
97. K&R for the insightful and inciteful replies. nt |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
98. I saw her say it. not much comment anywhere else, was there? |
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