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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:09 PM Original message |
Why does Byrd get a pass on DU? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. bigotry is ok if you voted no on the IWR and carry a copy of the Constitution. nt. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. ...... |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
111. So why does your candidate have an endorsement by a bigot on her website? nt |
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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. no good reason, IMHO |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. All who voted for that bill are worthy of condemnation. Hillary |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. do you call Byrd on his racism and bigotry? nt. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
51. Racism and Bigotry? You are talking about the 1930's? And you weren't even BORN! |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. 1930's? Worship does blind. nt. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. He doesn't and lord knows Feinstein doesn't |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. nope. you're wrong. he does get a pass. look at the reaction |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. No, he does get a pass from many on DU. |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. I think it may be due to his strong and vocal opposition to the war |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. If they'd listened to Byrd and Kennedy ....we wouldn't BE IN IRAQ! |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
88. If they'd listened to Byrd....no civil rights. nt. |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
8. Weren't you here in 02 |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. so that trumps racism and bigotry? interesting. nt. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. So what? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
90. Leahy gets bashed because he's in a key position as chair of the judiciary committee |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. He doesn't get a pass from me. He should have retired years ago. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Me neither. I can't get passed that. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
66. Oh My! Ms Calli...you have NO HATE in your Heart? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
13. Not from me, but from many on DU, you're right. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. Ok, let's condemn Robert Byrd even more! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. why does it upset you so? |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:47 PM Original message |
LMAO. I have better things to do than get upset about which Dem Senator gets flamed the most. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. where has he been condemned before? nt. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. The search function is your friend. n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. yes, very ocassionally he gets |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
17. No pass here. I will NEVER vote for him! Of course, I live in NJ. n/t |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Byrd is a Paleo-Conservative. Most of them opposed the |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Do you think so? |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. Feinstein made a killing off the Iraq War. Many DUers know this and thus don't like her. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. He's a bigot now. It's not in the past. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Byrd's KKK membership is the most visible sign of his bigotry... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Nonsense. It's clear you're not familiar enough with |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. It's clear you didn't read my post. I said "most visible" sign. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I'm clearly talking about people here, not the man in the street- |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. So you resort to nonsensical blanket statements. Fine. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. hmm. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. ... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. desperate try there. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
75. I did have fun doing a search, which revealed how full of shit you are. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. at least you can agree that he is an old hateful man and has been that way his entire life. nt. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Yes, I can. But the OP was much different. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I disagree. The Byrd defenders far outweigh the detractors, and their excuses are lame. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I see him as like Lieberman - a jerk, but we need him... |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
49. All Byrd has done is substitute gay-bashing for black-bashing. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
76. Great. Let's have Joe Manchin pick his replacement, then. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
19. There's a lot of tunnel vision around here... |
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Drum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. As is "Villian of the day" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. yep. it's the old; i love him/her |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
29. I've brought this up before, I had tons of people jump down my throat about it! |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
32. oldness? nt |
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seasat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
36. He also has been a big supporter of mountain top removal coal mining. |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
38. Because He Had Done So Much For West Virginia |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. that's called pork. and taken to the extreme that byrd takes it |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
40. Because he deserves to be appreciated for being so eloquently against the war |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Bullshit. He certainly was not alone. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
41. I don't give him a pass, but West Virginia v. California is a consideration |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
42. Byrd doesn't get a pass. Feinstein gets more criticism because she has more constituents. nt |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
44. dob November 20, 1917 |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
62. I think his recent statements |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. I think that at least |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. He has bigoted viewpoints |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Well, cali, |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. My mother is nearly the same |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. My nearest neighbor |
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Jemmons (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
46. Not anymore |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
48. I fucking hate Byrd. n/t |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
64. I imagine that "your hate" goes beyond Byrd. I feel sad about your HATE...because |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. its worked well for Byrd. He has lived a long time with his. nt. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
50. Because he stood on the Senate Floor and Warned and Warned about Iraq Invasion! |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. yet, he is a racist and bigot. nt. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. You have no idea how ignorant your post is. I hope you will check out the FACTS... |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Byrd is a racist that opposed the war. nt. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. One would wonder WHERE YOU COME FROM that you Don't KNOW what Byrd/Kennedy Did... |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Byrd is a homophobe as well. nt. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. REALLY? Do you have some links to support that an almost 90 year old man is a Homophobe? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. voted yes on Constitutional ban of same sex marriage. that one is because he carries a copy. nt. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. So.. you are with the "Gays & Guns" Crowd who say your Vote will Depend |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. so, are you arguing that he isn't a racist and bigot, or how I should vote? nt. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
87. You didn't answere what I asked.....n/t |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. you suddenly changed the argument when ample evidence of his bigotry was shown. nt. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. er, you might want to hold on to your own shovel |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. He has a 20% rating from the ACLU |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
105. I'm a member of the ACLU...there are lots of folks that wouldn't earn their grade... |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
58. I know how hard it is to give up indoctrination. The bar for Byrd is low |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. ROFL! "the Bar for Byrd is Low." (You need to get on the Comedy Circuit) |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
79. I can't even count the number of Dems - primarily Southern, I'm afraid - who I don't |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Yes, but do these others receive adulation that borders on worship? nt. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. If I took worship on DU too seriously it wouldn't be posible for me to participate. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Yet...you fail to understand why Robert Byrd get's adulation from may DU'ers |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. you seem to have trouble entertaining two equally true yet |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #83 |
107. I ain't seen no worshipin' of Byrd. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. ... |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Alright. Granted, that was a little over the top for me. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Byrd. nt. |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. I guess I should've added |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
86. Because he's a Dem...anything goes, I don't care if he shoots cats... |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
91. His voting record might not be perfect |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. He has a 20% rating from the ACLU on civil rights. n/t |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. I'm basing things on his Senate voting record |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
94. I take it that this means that Byrd isn't on-board for an Iranian invasion. n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Why would you take that? |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
95. He doesn't get a pass. He holds positions I disagree with. |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
96. I thought he did away with his bigotry? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. no...he has not. nt. |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
97. He doesn't |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
100. Maybe this poll is a clue .... ? |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
101. He's a late bloomer. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. he's a bigot. nt. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
104. What can I say. I'm a sucker for 12-string Rickenbackers. |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Well said. n/t |
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106. this takes the |
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