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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:23 PM
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Enough to make you throw something at the TV.
I watched This Week with George Stephanopoulos and during the round table the question of recession came up. When asked why almost half of Americans thought we were already in a recession George Will said, “Frankly Americans today have an incredibly low threshold of pain . . .”

Hmmm; 14 million people losing their homes to foreclosure, family income down 6% since 2000, heating oil up 30%, gasoline twice what it was when Bush took office (and I really mean that, TOOK office), a million new uninsured people every year since Bush took office and more people living below the poverty level than ever before.

But we’ve got a low pain threshold.

Well, isn’t that special . . .
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:28 PM
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1. I do have a low pain threshold, that's why I ignore that pain in the ass Will
whether in print or on TV-----one of the worst of all the pompous blowhards paid big bucks spew out intellectual sounding inanities...
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:31 PM
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2. Smug pundits are our best friends right now
because you're not alone in your annoyance. Every time one of them merrily chirps about this wonderful GOP economy, a thousand more people realize they're being lied to by a bunch of overpaid hacks.

Everybody knows prices are skyrocketing, wages are going noplace, and their net worth is tied up in houses that are depreciating in price. They know if they get sick, the insurance they're paying top price for will try to cheat them out of appropriate care. They know their ability to maintain their lifestyle is tied to the amount of debt they can leverage. They know their retirements are shot to hell by corporate greed and that the GOP wants to rob them of Social Security, too.

The whole picture is not creating a population that is prepared to be mollified by a bunch of blow dried bobbleheads and right wing billionaires telling them their lives are peachy and if they're unhappy, they're just being wimps.

Joe Public is in a mood to do something about it, and all these yappers are making him madder every day.
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:32 PM
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3. I cannot help but wonder what HIS pain threshold would be if he werekicked out on his butt...no job,
Edited on Mon Oct-29-07 12:32 PM by BrklynLib at work
no home, no hope....
What a total POS
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 01:02 PM
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6. Well, there was that partial "butt kicking"
At least causing a bit of "no dignity:"
One might be surprised to read, in other words, that in the 1980s, while still married to his first wife, Will was romantically linked to Lally Weymouth, daughter of Washington Post owner Katharine Graham, according to Washingtonian magazine (1/87). When Will moved out on his wife and children, he found his office furniture dumped on his front lawn with a note reading, "Take it somewhere else, buster" (Salon, 2/12/98). Though the lamentable lack of shame in U.S. society is a common theme in Will's writing, shame, like other principles he touts, seems to be for other people.

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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:16 PM
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16. PERFECT!!! Thanks for that. Someone needs to email or snail mail that article to him...just a
little reminder how it feels to be flat on your face....


"shame, like other principles he touts, seems to be for other people."

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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:36 PM
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4. There was an article in Newsweek
Which George Will contributes too, so hopefully he read it...

Basically things are much more difficult today than 30 years ago. Some things were more expensive back then, but so many other things were cheaper. Basically the average family today with two working parents, has a harder time just on the same basic necessties (mortgage, electric, food, health care) than the average family with one working parent did a generation ago.

Low pain threshold my ass. You can make 50,000 a year in this country, (which is what, 3 times the poverty level?) and still have problems owning a house, buying food, providing health care, etc. Even if you can, unless you're living in one of the cheapest parts of the country, you're probably living paycheck to paycheck.

That's why people think it sucks more than it used to. Because it does.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 01:07 PM
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9. here is a similar (the same?) article
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21309318/?GT1=10450

Bankruptcy law expert and Harvard University Professor Elizabeth Warren spent a lot of time crunching consumer spending numbers for her popular books, "The Fragile Middle Class” and “The Two-Income Trap.” In both, she makes this point: Despite all those $200 sneakers you hear about and the long lines at Starbucks, consumers are actually spending less of their income — much less — on discretionary items like clothing, entertainment and food than their parents did. In fact, after taking care of essentials like housing and health care, today’s middle class has about half as much spending money as their parents did in the early 1970s, Warren says.

The basics, according to Warren, now take up close to three-fourths of every family's spending power (it was about 50 percent in 1973), leaving precious little left over at the end of the month — and leaving many families with no cushion in case of a job loss or health crisis.
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 01:10 PM
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11. Thanks for that link. I feel an editorial coming on and that sort of
sourcing is great.
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 01:13 PM
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12. I think that's the same one
Or an altered version. It reads almost exactly the same, but I don't have the newsweek copy anymore so I can't compare them.

The numbers on this one are the same. Household income up 74% primarily by adding a second worker, but total fixed expenses (house, school, health, car) have risen more than double that.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 01:01 PM
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5. George Will is an egomaniacal irrelevant pompous bag of crap
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 01:03 PM
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7. mr will is one of the global warming deniers.....he's also full of shit.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 01:04 PM
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8. George Will is...jeez, I can't even think of a word for it...
What word means the same thing as rigiddinosaurwholooksdownoneverybodyandisalmostneverright?
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 01:08 PM
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10. The word "Santorum" comes to mind:
Santorum: noun; that brown frothy residue remaining after anal sex.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 01:15 PM
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13. Americans today have an incredibly low threshold of pain
Man when did the right start hating America too?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:14 PM
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14. Sorry to hear that Will is still around
Edited on Mon Oct-29-07 02:15 PM by truedelphi
As much as I hated the tragedy of Three Mile Island - I laughed my fanny off when it
went up just DAYS after George Will had pronounced Nuclear Energy to be the safest energy mode around.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:15 PM
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15. George Will is a piece of trash.
For a long time.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:18 PM
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17. Frankly, he's just another "out of touch" conservative....nt
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:53 PM
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18. The antics of people like Coulter and Limbaugh overshadow these long-time hypocrites and blowhards.
Sadly, people like Will just Novak are seen as acceptable RWers even though they say just as contemptible things as Coulter and Limbaugh.
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