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Syrinx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:21 AM Original message |
Is It Not Surreal That America Is Even Having This "Debate" On Torture? |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm old and I can tell you this administration is like nothing before |
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BridgeTheGap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes, Fascists are quite "surreal" |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. yes, it's bizzaro world |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, it's very plain evidence of how far we've fallen as a country. (NT) |
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Beer Snob-50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
5. the part that blows my mind is when he said |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
18. and yet we have seen what waterboarding does to a person. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Waterboarding is among the nicer things done |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
6. At least we can still have a debate about it |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
7. Nauseating. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
8. indeed. I don't even recognize this country anymore... it has become |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. horrifying what this regime has done to our country, all the more |
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Loge23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
9. They have their following. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. people have become so ignorant and arrogant, and so inhuman. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
10. All I can say is that I'm glad my father didn't live to see this |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. mine too. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
11. this is what 7 years of tyranical bu$h* rule gives us. |
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emanymton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
12. "Christians" Defending Torture. USA - Torture OK ... |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. The Christians who hate the Christ... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Maybe they thought "Passion of the Christ" was a training film? |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
13. bush and cheney have done this to us. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. they need to pay for their crimes, all their BS will catch up on them. |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. I hope so. |
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wolfgirl (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
14. I was just |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
15. our standards have hit an all time low with this POS in office |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
16. what's truly frightening |
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Synnical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
17. Indeed. n/t |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
20. Torture, bombing, economic sanctions that never hurt the leaders in power |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
21. Almost precisely the same sentence I uttered at home last night. |
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NoFederales (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
26. Surreal, just as violence, and stupidity, held up for adulation in our |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
28. As I understand it |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
30. Whether we can survive this round of empire |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
32. I say they'll all pay for this in the end |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
33. I agree; we've sunk so low, so fast. The abnormal is up for debate now. nt |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
34. Everytime I Hear Someone Say. . . |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. indeed. During the Revolutionary War, thousands of people died ... |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
35. it's surreal that 99% of congress is not outraged |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
36. They took the USA and turned her into |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
37. what debate? has there been debate?? pissy pants says he does not torture.. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
38. the Mukasey vote will tell me where Democrats stand on the issue of torture...plain & simple |
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brazos121200 (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
39. Naomi Wolf wrote a good article in Guardian magazine |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
40. Exquisitely stated my friend. K&R. I absolutely agree... |
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Syrinx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:11 AM Response to Reply #40 |
49. thanks! |
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Daphne08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
41. It's unbelievable to me that the subject is even up for discussion. |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. yes. The thought that torture would be considered as a possibility |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
42. I'm amazed people aren't in the streets, torching stuff daily n/t |
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deacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
43. Great point. If we don't torture why are we having this debate. Disgraceful. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
44. And with no opposition party in place, it's pointless to even have the debate. |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
45. Indeed I agree |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
48. I'm old and it's unreal that we are doing this . |
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