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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:32 PM
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Groups seek stop to Comcast Net meddling - Comcast caught blocking communications
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 04:02 PM by Breeze54
http://www.thestate.com/technology-wire/story/217359.html">Groups seek stop to Comcast Net meddling

Posted on Fri, Nov. 02, 2007

By PETER SVENSSON - AP Technology Writer

NEW YORK --

A coalition of consumer groups and legal scholars on Thursday formally asked the Federal
Communications Commission to stop Comcast Corp. from interfering with its subscribers' file sharing.


Two of the groups are also asking the FCC to fine Comcast $195,000 for every affected subscriber.

The petitions will be the first real test of the FCC's stance on "Net Neutrality," the long-standing principle that Internet traffic be treated equally by carriers. The agency has a policy supporting the concept but its position hasn't been tested in a real-world case.

Last month, The Associated Press reported that Comcast hindered file sharing by subscribers who used BitTorrent, a popular file-sharing program. The AP's tests confirmed claims by users who also noticed interference with some file-sharing applications.

SNIP-->

Comcast denies that it blocks file sharing, but acknowledged last week that it was "delaying" some of the traffic between computers that share files.

In practice, the company blocks requests from users who are trying to retrieve files from a Comcast subscriber's computer for a period of time. But it eventually lets the requests through if they are repeated.

In one AP test, a request went through after 10 minutes of trying. The technology does not directly affect downloads of BitTorrent files by Comcast subscribers, only uploads.


Comcast has said the interference is intended to improve the Internet experience for all its subscribers, noting that a relatively small number of file sharers is enough to slow down its network.

In response to the filings, David Cohen, an executive vice president at Comcast, said that the FCC's policies recognize that ISPs need to manage the traffic on their networks.

But if other ISPs follow in Comcast's footsteps, file sharing would essentially crawl to a halt.
While the technology is a popular way to illegally share copyright movies and music, legal uses
are proliferating, particularly in movie distribution.

"They're blocking an innovative application that could be a competitor to cable TV," said Marvin Ammori, general counsel at Free Press, one of the advocacy groups behind the petition to the FCC.

The petition asks the commission to immediately declare that Comcast is violating the FCC's policy.

The co-signers are Consumer Federation of America; Consumers Union, the publisher of Consumer Reports;
Media Access Project; Public Knowledge; and professors at the Internet practices of the Yale, Harvard and Stanford law schools.

Free Press and Public Knowledge are separately filing a formal complaint that asks the FCC to demand a "forfeiture" from Comcast of $195,000 per affected subscriber.

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An investigation by the Associated Press caught Comcast secretly inspecting online

communications and crippling users' ability to share information with one another.

This is a gross violation of Net Neutrality --

the longstanding principle that ensures a free and open Internet.

Free Press has filed a legal complaint demanding that the FCC take action

to protect the Internet's free flow of information.

By sending the letter you join the fight to stop Comcast and other gatekeepers.

Fill out the form below to send your letter to the FCC telling them to protect Net Neutrality.


http://action.freepress.net/campaign/comcastviolates?rk=UdxHF%2d711%5f6JE


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:53 PM
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1. Thanks to anonymous for the recommend!
:D

Hey everyone? Please sign and help put a stop to this!!!! It's BS!!!

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:56 PM
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2. Thanks again to anonymous #2 !
:D

:hi:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 04:05 PM
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3. Another Thank You to Anonymous # 3 !!
:D

Tell Comcast to blocking communications!!!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 04:54 PM
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4. Signing will benefit all of you!!!
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 05:39 PM by Breeze54
Go ahead and sign and save the free flow of information on the internet!

If they can do this to their customers...you're next!!!

Don't let that happen!!! :grr:

Fight the corporations trying to stop legal communications!!!!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 04:56 PM
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5. K&R
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:40 PM
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6. Thanks dicksteele!
:patriot:

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:01 PM
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7. Stop whining
A) Use Tor. They can't tell what you're doing and can't selectively block

B) Get a real ISP. Speakeasy or something. The big commercial outfits are for suckers

C) Use nonstandard ports. Nothing's stopping you.

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:05 PM
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9. Yes, and the NSA spying on your e-mails is okay with you?
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 06:08 PM by Breeze54
You, my friend, are absurd and uneducated on the topic.

You sound like the freepers saying;

"I don't mind if the GOV reads my e-mails. I have nothing to hide." :eyes:

GET A CLUE!!!!



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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:41 PM
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15. I encrypt my emails. Do you?
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 09:43 PM by dmesg
I know I sound like a dick but this is about a decade of computer technician's rage here:

If you do not secure your own privacy I have no pity on you.

It is possible to send emails and instant messages that are quite literally unbreakable by even the huge CIA/NSA supercomputers.

You can do this, right now, and render the subject moot. http://www.gnupg.org is a place to start.

Don't trust the state to guard your rights; when they are securable by yourself, as they are here, secure them.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:48 PM
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16. Encryption is NOT the point!!
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 09:50 PM by Breeze54
They should NOT be prying into yours nor mine private communiques!!!

I'm also a tech and I have encrypted but those on the receiving end

did not and so it was futile! But it isn't that I have anything devious

to hide at all and you know what I'm talking about! You and I are entitled

to our privacy!! Period!! And we're paying for a service that ISP's are

trying to stop and slow down for their benefit, not yours or mine!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:00 PM
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17. Encryption is entirely the point
Forget the government for a second. Organized crime wants to read your email. Stop them from doing it. As a bonus, you will stop the NSA from reading your email too. It won't even be an issue.

If Americans were even remotely vigilant about defending their privacy from criminals, government surveillance wouldn't even be an issue.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:21 PM
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19. Well; I do use safeguards but they shouldn't be
slowing my use of the internet that I PAY for every month
nor should the NSA be reading my benign e-mails! But I'll
check out that link. It's just that I have not savvy family
that barely uses the internet, let alone encrypted e-mails. :P

:hi:

:toast:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:03 PM
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8. Big thanks to Anonymous # 5 !!
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 06:04 PM by Breeze54
Let's see how many Anonymous kicks this can get!! :P

:toast:

STOP CENSORSHIP!!! Comcast is testing the waters!!

Let them know the waters are ROUGH and RIFE with PROTESTS!!!!!

Don't let them shut you up!!!

Please Sign the Letter and then send it to your friends & family too!!

OK?

Sweet!!! :woohoo:

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:10 PM
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10. Hats off to Anonymous Recommend # 6 !!
:P

:woohoo: :woohoo:

:rofl:

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:51 PM
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11. Woot to Anonymous # 7 !!
.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:04 PM
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12. Lest I forget Anonymous # 8 who lit the way, even more!


:D

Thank You! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:09 PM
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13. Thanks to Anonymous # 9....
This post is moving up by leaps & bounds!!

Thank You!!! :D

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:47 PM
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14. You ROCK, Anonymous # 10 !!!
:yourock:

You all rock!! .



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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:02 PM
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18. Thanks For The Info... Comcast Is The Only Cable I Can Get!!! n/t
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:23 PM
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20. That sucks! I'm at Verizon's mercy....
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 10:23 PM by Breeze54
They have it all locked up here, (MONOPOLY)

where I live and it pisses me off, royally!! :grr:

I hope you sent a letter too! ;)

:hi:

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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #20
30. Will Do!! I'm To The Point Where It Seems NOTHING We Do Ever
seems to be noticed! I hear people complaining ALL THE TIME, and yet they just keep rolling us! I said I wasn't going to sign anymore petitions or write because I've been so depressed by not being heard, but I guess one more time won't hurt. I just don't have much FAITH left!

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:48 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. Me neither so why not sign it?
I mean, what have I "really" got to lose this time?

ZERO!!

But at least I can hold my head up high and say truthfully, "I tried".

:cry:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 11:47 PM
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21. Late night kick of hope!
;)
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:36 AM
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22. k & r nt
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 06:36 AM
Response to Reply #22
25. Thank You, citizen_jane!!
Another Astute Citizen!! ;)

:applause: :applause:

I need

:P
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 04:14 AM
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23. Concrap sucks. They remove channels and jack up the price.
Hell, these greedy assholes jack up the price regardless. I don't have TV Guide Channel, AZN, or C-Span 2 anymore.

They're trying to force people into higher priced package shit.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 06:40 AM
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26. Yup and now force you to slower speeds!!
Because you don't 'pay' enough!! BS!! Fight back!!

And don't take 'NO!' for an answer! .

These are YOUR AIRWAVES!!!
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 06:19 AM
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24. These companies are the tools of the government
and the immunity for telecoms is evidence. WE, in the tech community, need a new plan to protect our neophyte communities.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 06:43 AM
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27. WE need to fight them on their own turf...for now!!
And then it will change when we completely take back both houses and the WH!!

Right now we're fighting the * CO Regime and we will be for the next year!!

Until then...we have to KEEP FIGHTING!!!!! .

Never Give Up!! This is OUR Country!!!

We're going to take it back!!! ;)
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 07:55 AM
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29. ..
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 08:15 AM by flashl
Thats asking the same people who are the benefactors of this push to deny their greed for some greater good.

It is not gonna happen.

A small group making technology changes can outpace a corporate behemoth any day. We lose when we stay in the lane of the slow moving corporatist. The government, universities, and contractors already have Internet2. They are preparing to hose the public on Internet1.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 06:47 AM
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28. Huge Thanks to the 12 + 2 Anonymous recomends!!
:P

I lost some scores last night...and that's a GOOD THING!!!

So?

THANK YOU!!!



Everyone in America Thanks You!! ;)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:51 AM
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32. Sooo cool!! I just saw 3 more
Recommends!! :P

And after 'weathering' that unbelievable rainstorm' in MA today;

I needed my spirits 'lifted'! (See my OP in Lounge. :P )

Thank You # 12; 13; 14 and 15 !!

:hug:

:hi:
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:52 PM
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33. wonder why Victoria Clarke got a job there?
Prior to joining Comcast, 'Torie' was the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs at the Pentagon working with Rumsfeld ...

2003

Comcast Hires Ex-Pentagon PR Specialist Victoria Clarke

Cable giant Comcast has hired former Pentagon public relations specialist Victoria Clarke to be a top lobbyist in Washington. Since leaving the Pentagon after the invasion, Clarke has also worked as an on-air analyst for CNN. According to the Washington Post, Clarke’s new job at Comcast will allow her to keep working for CNN and what the paper described as volunteering for the Pentagon.


Comcast press release announcing her employment
http://www.comcast.com/About/PressRelease/PressReleaseDetail.ashx?PRID=269

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Clarke

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